abuse of immigrant children

[LadyKay]

I have gotten off topic with this and I am sorry.  I think that no matter what side we agree with or disagree with, that we should pray for these poor people.  Also pray for the  border agents who have to see and deal with all of this.  You can contact your state representative and voice your concerns over this matter. 

Edited July 7, 2019 by LadyKay

[ayin jade]

2 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Can you give me a name or names?   

Julian castro wants to decriminalize crossing the border without permission. 

Nancy pelosi and kamala harris are among the multiple others who have expressed views and policies that encourage illegals to come here.  

[ayin jade]

2 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Also pray for the  border agents who have to see and deal with all of this. 

 

Border agents put up with so much. They get attacked by illegals and cant do anything to protect themselves without getting punished, sued, or even jailed. They get harassed by americans who are pro illegals. Recently, there were 2 suicides on the border of border agents. It is highly stressful for them. 

[Reinitin]

6 hours ago, heavensflower said:

Am I the only one concerned about the suffering of illegal immigrants crossing the border who are treated horribly by Trump and ICE? 

What about the poor little children locked up in prison camps who are not allowed to bathe, take a shower, brush their teeth or eat a decent amount of food and have thin foil sheets to sleep on and wear the same clothes they were apprehended in day after day.  What kind of evil, cruel person in a Democratic country would treat people this way? I know they broke the law by entering the USA illegally, but even prisoners, people in jail should be allowed decent food and water to drink, showering facilities, tooth paste tooth brushes, a change of jail uniforms, and a decent place to sleep. The cells are overcrowded, both for immigrants and Americans. I heard the children are sent to court without any adult help to help them speak and explain why they are in the USA. They should have a lawyer to speak for them, I think that is the law. I think the law says that children can only be held in the prison camp for 3 days, then they must go to a safe home, like a foster home, a home for immigrant and homeless children without their families. 

 

Psychiatrists have shown pictures drawn by children detained this way. They show people behind bars and in cages. The people were very thin, almost emaciated, and they looked like they were in pain and suffering. 

 

Jesus Christ said, "Let the children come to me." He said the Kingdom of heaven belonged to those like little children. And he also said we should treat people the way we want people to treat us. The Bible also says that we should be kind to the alien, by that they mean foreigner, be kind to strangers and alien foreigners. The Hebrew people were foreigners and slaves in Egypt, so God told them to remember how it felt and be kind to other foreigners, and do not treat them badly like the Egyptians did. 

 

As Christians and Americans, we should treat immigrants with love and kindness. We should help central American countries, We need to fix the messed up migration system, there are a lot of American institutions that need cleaning up and fixed. 

 

Trump is responsible for the cruelty. He lies all the time, and he has even said that the harsh, cruel conditions were a deterent to keep migrants from coming in. If you don't like it, don't sneak into America, he said. 

 

I hope America can get a new president with the upcoming election. We need someone with compassion. We need a democrat. 

I'm sure there is not a Christian that is not aware the Lord's angels are standing before him relaying every child's suffering and the names of those offending them. But I really doubt those angels are accusing Trump.

The border facilities only hold a number of people those cages were built and used by the Obama administration. Children are being used by human trafficking rings to get people who are paying Coyotes into our country Because or laws guarantee safe harbor to anyone with children. So they are using the children. About 30% are DNA tested and are not related to the adults they are with. Many of the Children are being trafficed for the pedifile sex trade and many have been raped by 10, 20, 30 men before they cross that border.  Many are dumped in the middle of the desert to die or left in the river to drown and God bless the border patrol, finding them and saving them. And God comfort them when they find them already dead.

Your blaming Trump is about at logical as. If I dumped 300o sick,  wounded, rapped, exhausted, starved children at your 3 bedroom house, then had cameras ready to tell the world how you are abusing them. Every call you make to CPS or EMS for help they say sorry all our beds are full and we have run out of money. So by law those 3000 kids are now your responsabilty. 

So yes, it breaks my heart that drug cartels and democrat and some republican politicians  are making billions useing these children and causing their misery for campaign contributions and refuse to address our immigration laws. And the millstone around every neck and thrown in the depths is Justice for every politician protecting the child sex trade, drug trade and human trafficking trade. Every person selling children into sex trades and selling children to be used by coyotes, and every drug dealer using children to distract the border patrol. And every lustful pig raping them, starving them and pushing them 1000's of miles to our border. And damned is too good for the parents selling their children for this.

I Pray God grant President Trump wisdom to destroy the cartels and that every person in the border patrol, CPS workers, volunteers, be given wisdom and kindness and comfort in a very stressful time.

If your have so much compassion for children, why would you want someone that has so little compassion they think killing them at birth is Justice and A parental right? I'll pray for you wisdom also.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Reinitin

[missmuffet]

We should not look at the color of their skin because God does not see color. We should not look at this on who is doing it such as the democrats because we can get caught up on the political aspect. Only look at the fact that children are being abused. How do you think God looks at this?

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, heavensflower said:

Am I the only one concerned about the suffering of illegal immigrants crossing the border who are treated horribly by Trump and ICE? 

That right there tells me everything I need to know about one's political persuasion., maybe even their military service, or lack thereof defending this great nation and protecting our borders. It's not my legal or moral responsibility to assume responsibility or coddle criminals and cater to them.

Liberals and Democrat's want to do good; but with your money not theirs. Taking ones hard earned income diminishes their ability to provide for themselves and their families here in America. Responsibility: It's their parents responsibility to ensure they have the resources, love and support to have children in the first place. At the expense through Federal income taxation of deducting 25% of my hard earned income; the illegals receive water, food, housing, medical care and are not abused by law enforcement or the system. When caught, the are given court dates and released, of which 99% never show up to court to plead their case. 

Their very first act stepping illegally over our border makes them a criminal. They are draining our resources and bringing nothing in of value and no education, just dependency. Have you noticed the outbreaks of diseases popping up in the areas they are migrating to?  

Try breaching another countries borders, any country pick one; then demand entitlement and they owe you, and see what happens to you. Trump and ICE treating the ILLEGALS horribly, I'm toning it down and say I strongly disagree.

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, heavensflower said:

Am I the only one concerned about the suffering of illegal immigrants crossing the border who are treated horribly by Trump and ICE? 

Double post?

Edited July 7, 2019 by Dennis1209

[Debp]

While no one wants to see any children abused, the situation would be much better if people would seek to immigrate here legally.   Other countries do not let people just come into their countries with no jobs or ability to support themselves.   Perhaps this is still the case in the U.K.?    They would require a person have a job waiting in the U.K. that no British citizen could fill.

Btw, this is interesting:  Border patrol has been noticing a large alligator in the Rio Grande.   He is showing up more often in the area where the people are swimming across the river!   Talk about child abuse, making your family swim where they could be attacked by an alligator!

[Dennis1209]

A watchful moderation of this topic is a good thing; as personally it's one of the few topics that push my hot button on the patriotic secular side of me. I apologize for my fervent belief and attitude for what this nation once stood for, and the millions that died, were disfigured, blinded and maimed for our nations ideal and founding under the rule of law, not democracy. 

As a Christian and human being; I'm as compassionate and charitable as anyone else. Charity is that, charity; taking by force of law from someone that earned it; then turning around and handing it over to someone of the politicians choice for votes, whom didn't earn it nor deserve, it is not charity, it's called socialism. 

A country is defined as having 'borders', without borders and defending them, what do you have? Only an outside hypocrite would cry out not to build a wall to protect a nation. Think Vatican and there massive walls and troops protecting their sovereign independent tiny country.

Myself and "millions" of other patriotic Americans put our actions where our mouth is. We took and oath to protect our country, families and loved ones from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and carried it out to the end. America is giving away what so many have sacrificed for our family, posterity and freedom. You'll find in the character and history of the Obama's, Berni Sanders, Hillary Clinton's, socialists and new world crowd common threads. One being not putting themselves in harms way defending this great nation, only criticizing it. They're all focused on the me, me, me; wealth, power, corruption and control. Citizens whom vote for such people... (left out) .

Investigation and research reveals a wide disparity of charitable giving, percentage wise, between Democrat's / liberals and Conservatives / Independents. It appears reason, logic and critical thinking has been lost, and feelings and emotions have replaced it. 

 

Rant / Off

[missmuffet]

7 hours ago, Debp said:

While no one wants to see any children abused, the situation would be much better if people would seek to immigrate here legally.   Other countries do not let people just come into their countries with no jobs or ability to support themselves.   Perhaps this is still the case in the U.K.?    They would require a person have a job waiting in the U.K. that no British citizen could fill.

Btw, this is interesting:  Border patrol has been noticing a large alligator in the Rio Grande.   He is showing up more often in the area where the people are swimming across the river!   Talk about child abuse, making your family swim where they could be attacked by an alligator!

Yes, these people are dragging their children into evil territory because they are illegal immigrants.