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Posted
55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

So, IS the question you are really asking here more of a 

Who will be resurrected

to serve IN THE TEMPLE vs AT THE GATE

or 

to be a vessel of gold and honor vs wood and dishonor?

or

IF the man who was given 10 talents is going to be ruling and reigning with Christ while the man who was given the 2 talents will be left to wait? 

or  

IF someone fed to the lions as a Christian is as worthy as someone who died in the final generation/last week to rule and reign with Christ for the Lords Day?



If so maybe a change in the title to

Who is resurrected when and for what purpose

or

is God a respecter of persons and times or not?

or

is the first resurrection of a 'special' class of 'the saved' 


Because I am addressing the Who is resurrected and the When,


I just don't agree with 

the LIVING being the DEAD 'who are raised up' when Christ returns (having been raised up and returning with Him)  

over the DEAD actually being the DEAD who NEED to be raised up having never been raised up before. 


I wouldn't join in on a conversation that is trying to separate 'the never die saved but die and remain dead rising up' at Christs return from 'the never die saved but die and remain dead remaining dead not rising up' until the GWTJ (wow, talk about words I never would have guessed I would ever write)

knowing God will be joining the 2 sticks into one 


Do I have that right?  you classify the never die LIVING as 'the dead' that rise when Christ returns

and

are trying to figure in that only some of the never die living 'DEAD' will rise from the dead

while the rest of the never die living but 'dead' won't rise but will be remaining 'dead' along with the actual dead for the Lords day also?
(a question I never thought I would ask)



 

I so wish I could figure out what you’re saying, D.  …sigh 5903DE62-FFBA-4E5E-B2E6-346530A422D5.gif.b6dd1720338498f132133c67abdb638a.gif


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Posted
4 hours ago, Diaste said:

Oh?

These about the throne of God in heaven that came out of GT are not immortal? They can stand about the throne before the Lamb, the elders and the four living creatures and not have spiritual immortality?

Hmm...

And there it is again, SOULS in heaven IN bodies, having died and been raised up. 

I'm pointing, so you will 'see' it, cause once you do, you will see it everywhere at least once you quit trying to make the word 'great' into a doctrine all its own...precept on precept, precept on precept, verse by verse, verse by verse, here a little, there a little, but they would NOT hear, even though that is WHERE His rest is found, AND NOT in the letter. 

Ask yourself, how does Eternal damnation change the 2nd death into eternal life in torment????   by MAKING A DOCTRINE out of a word NOT only making null and void the word DEATH but many of the words of God.  Things like that happen all over the place.



When? and who? and what are the CLUES?????


1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

So, we know the FOUR WINDS (the end times) are being held back UNTIL all of God servants have been sealed.  


NOW, how many
HAD ALREADY BEEN SEALED?  

4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.


These HAVE ALREADY been sealed
5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Now we ADD to the 144,000 these others WHO ALSO have already been sealed

9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

THIS IS IN HEAVEN
This is after the Lamb Slain has ASCENDED leading THE CAPTIVITY CAPTIVE and when He receives 'the book'.  

So this ISN'T after 'the GREAT TRIBULATION'

or else Christ would be ON THE THRONE OF DAVID, and on earth, not still in heaven at the right hand of God, right? 


11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
 

50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.


"Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men." Ephesians 4:8 KJV


15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.


as it has been given me anyhow

 


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Posted
41 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

I so wish I could figure out what you’re saying, D.  …sigh 5903DE62-FFBA-4E5E-B2E6-346530A422D5.gif.b6dd1720338498f132133c67abdb638a.gif

I wish I could teach.  sigh.  

From what I have gathered, the INTENT of this thread is to find out WHO is special enough to rule and reign with Christ for the 1000 years, and the aim is to do that with the 1st resurrection being 'the dividing line'.  

Somehow, the RAISING up to heaven can be 'disregarded' as a resurrection SOME TIMES but not others, DEPENDING upon which doctrine one needs to SUPPORT.

Seems everyone wants to take SOME VERSES and just make their own doctrines up, no matter what.   

All I can say is all those who BELIEVE the 'living' are 'the dead' and resurrected out from the dead when Christ comes

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME saying they believe they were RESURRECTED to heaven when they died (just not in a body)

wont even ACKNOWLEDGE those two things are OPPOSITE of each other.  EITHER we are raised up when we die, or we are raised up when Christ returns.  

There is NOTHING written that says we are raised up TWICE*.  There is nothing written that says we are raised up WITHOUT A BODY.  Only the words of MAN say such things.  




have been going at it from EVERY CONCEIVABLE angle and no one is any closer to understanding.  

*we actually are raised up twice because at the death and resurrection AT our baptism is one, and the following Him at the death of the flesh is the other.  But no where does it say OUR SPIRITUAL BODY waits in the corruption of the earth to be 'reunited', born again, made one with 'a spirit' returning with Christ.  

all it says is THE DEAD rise.  Doesn't even say THE LIVING rise.  No one seems to ACKNOWLEDGE that 

someone who never dies CAN'T BE DEAD SO CAN'T EVEN BE AMONG THE DEAD THAT RISE WHEN CHRIST RETURNS.  BUT not one person here will speak of it.  Not one person will acknowledge it as a problem.  Not one person here will give so much as a verse

other than the DEAD are raised up.  

Since I HAVE TO BELIEVE what is written as it is written and NOT yea hath God said, when I read the DEAD,

ALL I SEE ARE UNSAVED SPIRITUALLY DEAD SOULS

AND I find it impossible to make those who NEVER DIE into the dead and I CAN'T accept it as truth because EVEN those who say it is, 

don't know why.  

Just going to stop and apologize and not going to go back and read or fix anything this is just how it came out.  Please forgive me for THE CAPS.  I am not yelling at you,  I am just super super sad.  I realize the failure is all mine and not yours but I don't how to fix it.  

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Posted
44 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I wish I could teach.  sigh.  

From what I have gathered, the INTENT of this thread is to find out WHO is special enough to rule and reign with Christ for the 1000 years, and the aim is to do that with the 1st resurrection being 'the dividing line'.  

Somehow, the RAISING up to heaven can be 'disregarded' as a resurrection SOME TIMES but not others, DEPENDING upon which doctrine one needs to SUPPORT.

Seems everyone wants to take SOME VERSES and just make their own doctrines up, no matter what.   

All I can say is all those who BELIEVE the 'living' are 'the dead' and resurrected out from the dead when Christ comes

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME saying they believe they were RESURRECTED to heaven when they died (just not in a body)

wont even ACKNOWLEDGE those two things are OPPOSITE of each other.  EITHER we are raised up when we die, or we are raised up when Christ returns.  

There is NOTHING written that says we are raised up TWICE*.  There is nothing written that says we are raised up WITHOUT A BODY.  Only the words of MAN say such things.  




have been going at it from EVERY CONCEIVABLE angle and no one is any closer to understanding.  

*we actually are raised up twice because at the death and resurrection AT our baptism is one, and the following Him at the death of the flesh is the other.  But no where does it say OUR SPIRITUAL BODY waits in the corruption of the earth to be 'reunited', born again, made one with 'a spirit' returning with Christ.  

all it says is THE DEAD rise.  Doesn't even say THE LIVING rise.  No one seems to ACKNOWLEDGE that 

someone who never dies CAN'T BE DEAD SO CAN'T EVEN BE AMONG THE DEAD THAT RISE WHEN CHRIST RETURNS.  BUT not one person here will speak of it.  Not one person will acknowledge it as a problem.  Not one person here will give so much as a verse

other than the DEAD are raised up.  

Since I HAVE TO BELIEVE what is written as it is written and NOT yea hath God said, when I read the DEAD,

ALL I SEE ARE UNSAVED SPIRITUALLY DEAD SOULS

AND I find it impossible to make those who NEVER DIE into the dead and I CAN'T accept it as truth because EVEN those who say it is, 

don't know why.  

Just going to stop and apologize and not going to go back and read or fix anything this is just how it came out.  Please forgive me for THE CAPS.  I am not yelling at you,  I am just super super sad.  I realize the failure is all mine and not yours but I don't how to fix it.  

D, I still can’t understand what’s being discussed because there aren’t any scriptures being posted.  :wacko:  I’m lost …


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Posted

How is it that so many people who study Bible prophecy cannot see the forthcoming fire judgement? The forthcoming Lord’s Day, when He will send His fiery wrath upon His enemies.

The forthcoming Day the Lord will send His fiery wrath, a disaster of similar magnitude as Noah’s Flood.

It must be attributed to Scriptures that say it will only be possible to know God’s plans just prior to the end time events. 1  Also many are sticking to incorrect ideas, such as a pre Tribulation ‘rapture’ and a nuclear war and they misplace or ignore prophetic verses. 2

 

Over one hundred scriptures tell of a terrible Day of fire and earthquakes, that will affect all of the world – vivid details of a tremendous destruction that cannot be matched with the war of Gog and Magog or the Return of Jesus.3  Prophesy tells plainly how the Middle East countries and cities will be destroyed, 4  and that God will turn the weapons of those commencing to attack the State of Israel upon their own heads. 5

The nature and extent of this fire judgement rules out any man made explanation. It is clearly stated that the Lord Himself will instigate His Day of vengeance and wrath upon all the inhabitants of the earth. 6  

The verses in Isaiah 30:26...the sun will shine with seven times its normal strength... and Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, are the ones that tell us exactly what means the Lord will use to carry it out. There has, in the past been sunspot activity that has seriously affected the earth, but a really large Coronal Mass Ejection will cause all the prophesied devastation and deaths worldwide. 7   This terrifying and shocking disaster of a fireball that envelopes the earth, will hit suddenly and unexpectedly, killing anyone caught outside. 8   Millions will die from the initial strike and millions more from the fighting and famine afterwards. 9

 

To re-establish law and order, a One World government will be agreed to, with the world divided into ten regions, each headed by its own president. 10   In Israel, the Messianic Jewish remnant who survive by hiding underground, 11 will be joined by their Christian brethren 12

  God knows who they are and He will motivate them to emigrate to the new nation of Beulah, to all of that area promised to the Patriarchs. 13  They will experience the great blessings that God has promised to His righteous faithful Christian people and they will fulfill their destiny. 14

In a few years, a world dictator will come to power and will eventually take control of Beulah and he will desecrate the new Temple. This starts the Great Tribulation, then 3½ years later Jesus Returns to commence His Millennium reign. 15

 

Just when do we get to truly understand the prophetic Scriptures? It cannot be that God will say to us after the end times have all happened, “Ha Ha, you dummies, for all your philosophy, sciences and religious studies, you couldn’t figure out what I gave you in your Bible.”

No, God will lift the veil from the minds of the few who earnestly seek the truth, those who put aside preconceived notions and renounce erroneous teachings. 16 

1 Thessalonians 5:4 You, friends, are not in the dark...

  The Lord will enlighten us if we search the Word, in humility and with the right motives.17   And put aside all theories and fables taught by well intentioned, but wrong; pastors and teachers. 18

                                                                      

 (1) Isaiah 32:3, Isaiah 35:5, Amos 3:7, Daniel 12:9-10, Revelation 1:1 

(2) Isaiah 8:16-22, Isaiah 29:11-14, 2 Timothy 4:3

 (3) Jeremiah 25:30-31, Zechariah 2:13, Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 18:13, Isaiah 13:6-13, Matthew 3:12

 (4) Psalms 83:13-18, Amos 1:2-15, Micah 4:11-12, Zephaniah 2:1-7, Ezekiel 30:1-8 

(5) Psalms 7:12-16, Obadiah 15, Isaiah 8:9-10  

(6) Isaiah 30:26-28, Isaiah 22:5, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 4:23-28, Rev.6:12-17

 (7) Deuteronomy 32:40-43, Isaiah 51:6, Jeremiah 9:21-22, Isaiah 13:12   

 (8) Zephaniah 2:1-3, Jeremiah 17:15-18, Isaiah 26:20-21, Ecclesiastes 8:5, Jeremiah 6:25-26

 (9) Psalms 109:24, Jeremiah 12:12-13          

(10) Daniel 7:24, Revelation 13:1 

(11) Zechariah 13:8-9, Isaiah 4:3, Isaiah 29:1-4       

 (12) Ezekiel 37:15-28, Isaiah 62:4, Zechariah 2:6, Ezekiel 20:34-36, Psalms 50:5   

(13) Jeremiah 3:22, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Isaiah 60:4, Isaiah 40:27-31, Amos 9:8b-15

 (14) Ezekiel 36:8-10, Isaiah 49:8-11, Joel 2:23-27, Deuteronomy 30:1-5, Jeremiah 30:18

  (15) Psalms 47:8-9, Psalms 93:1-5, Isaiah 11:6-10, Rev.20:4

 (16) Isaiah 30:18, Psalms 27:11-13, Isaiah 29:24, Hosea 12:10, Isaiah 35:3-5, 2 Timothy 4:3-4

(17) 1 Peter 1:19, Matthew 7:8

(18) Matthew 7:15, Isaiah 29:11, Jeremiah 14:14

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

WHO is special enough to rule and reign with Christ for the 1000 years

2 Tim 11, 12- It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Seems everyone wants to take SOME VERSES and just make their own doctrines up, no matter what.

The scriptures speak for themselves. All of them, not some, must be considered.

 

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

someone who never dies CAN'T BE DEAD SO CAN'T EVEN BE AMONG THE DEAD THAT RISE WHEN CHRIST RETURNS.  BUT not one person here will speak of it.  Not one person will acknowledge it as a problem.  Not one person here will give so much as a verse

other than the DEAD are raised up.

The main question in this thread is the, "resurrection." That refers to physical bodies, the spirit of those who have died await being reunited with the body, a NEW body for us.


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1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

D, I still can’t understand what’s being discussed because there aren’t any scriptures being posted.  :wacko:  I’m lost …

There are a number of positions taken by people posting. Much of my input is to say that Rev 20:4,5 shows some of those who are in the FIRST resurrection, but not all. Others are seen in various passages. It includes ALL who are saved. And, I'd say all those who trusted in God for redemption before Jesus came. AND the rest of humanity who had died up until that time! The resurrection brings about Judgment, so it will include the judgment of the unrighteous as well.

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2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

actually are raised up twice because at the death and resurrection AT our baptism is one, and the following Him at the death of the flesh is the other. 

The way I understand it, there is only one first resurrection. See, there’s a BIG difference between the resurrection of the body and the resurrection of the soul to immortality.  

For example, Ecclesiastes 12:7 cannot be a first resurrection because it is not yet a resurrection of the soul to immortality.  

Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

- Ecclesiastes 12:6-7 (KJV)

Of course we know that not everyone will go through that first resurrection.  Only the overcomers—the saints/the elect.

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On 1/1/2023 at 3:49 AM, FreeGrace said:

God's plan is clearly explained in the Bible.  All saved people, both OT and NT, will occur at the Second Advent, according to 1 Cor 15:23 -  But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

Jesus was the FIRST human to receive a glorified resurrection body.  He is "firstfruits".  THEN, "when He comes" a reference to the Second of 2 Advents, everyone else, or "those who belong to Him".  Or, would you like to argue that some group of saved people do not belong to Him?

Dan 12:2, John 5:29 and Acts 24:15 all mention the 2 resurrections of humans, one for the saved and one for the unsaved.

All this is not arguable.  The Bible is very clear about this.

Freegrace

The 1st resurrection is not the be all and end all.  It's a new beginning and a time for restoration on Israel and the nations.  This is the 1000 year of rest.  Rest from Satan who is locked up, and cannot interfere, so the nations can heal.

Ecclesiastes 7:8   Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

Before we get to the very end of God's plan, there are stages to go through, all for the benefit of Israel and the gentiles.

The bible is very clear in old testament prophecies about what is to come during that time.  If Israel are having children and multiplying during the millennium, then it makes sense that they are not spirit.  If they are not spirit, then they have not taken part in the first resurrection - which is why there is a second resurrection.

And if Israel are given mercy to repent, and convert because of truth, and learn by past mistakes, and become an example to the nations, and be in charge of spreading the truth, then they need trustworthy Men to lead them, .....devout men of God from old times who are chosen for this purpose, so the end can be more glorious.

 Isaiah 1:26   And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

 

So the kingdom of God on earth will consist of the mortal and the immortal.  The mortal will join the immortal in the 2nd resurrection.  And this is the finished work Christ will present to his Father.  All that he has converted and healed and washed clean.

 


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Posted
3 hours ago, Selah7 said:

The way I understand it, there is only one first resurrection. See, there’s a BIG difference between the resurrection of the body and the resurrection of the soul to immortality.  

For example, Ecclesiastes 12:7 cannot be a first resurrection because it is not yet a resurrection of the soul to immortality.  

Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

- Ecclesiastes 12:6-7 (KJV)

Of course we know that not everyone will go through that first resurrection.  Only the overcomers—the saints/the elect.

Shalom, Selah7.

You're right that there is only one First (General) Resurrection. However, there no difference between the resurrection of the body and the resurrection of the "soul" to immortality.

See, in today's jargon, we use the word "soul" for an "immaterial part of a human being." But, that is NOT what was meant by the Hebrew and Greek words translated "soul!"

Genesis 2:7 says,

Genesis 2:7 (KJV)

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The Hebrew of this verse is ...

וַיִּיצֶר֩ יְהוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֗ם עָפָר֙ מִן־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה וַיִּפַּ֥ח בְּאַפָּ֖יו נִשְׁמַ֣ת חַיִּ֑ים וַֽיְהִ֥י הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְנֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּֽה׃

And, it is transliterated as ...

7 Vayyiytser YHWH 'Elohiym 'et-haa'aadaam `aafaar min-haa'adaamaah vayyipach b'apaayow nishmat chayyiym vayhiy haa'aadaam lnefesh chayyaah:

A word-for-word translation is ...

7 Vayyiytser = 7 And-made
YHWH = YHWH; the LORD
'Elohiym = God
'et- = (next word is the direct object)
haa'aadaam = the-red-[man]
`aafaar = of-dust
min- = from
haa'adaamaah = the-red-[ground]
vayyipach = and-puffed
b'apaayow = in-his-nostrils
nishmat = a-puff
chayyiym = of-living-things
vayhiy = and-became
haa'aadaam = the-red-[man]
lnefesh = to/into-a-breathing-creature
chayyaah: = living:

Stringing it all together, it becomes ...

7 And-made YHWH; the LORD God (next word is the direct object) the-red-[man] of-dust from the-red-[ground] and-puffed in-his-nostrils a-puff of-living-things and-became the-red-[man] to/into-a-breathing-creature living:

Putting it more into English word order, we get ...

7 And YHWH God made the red man of dust from the red ground and puffed in his nostrils a puff of living things and the red man became into a living breathing creature.

It's important at this point that one understands the meaning of the word translated "soul" ("breathing creature").

Here's Strong's listing in the Hebrew Dictionary:

5315 nefesh (nephesh) נֶפֶשׁ (neh'-fesh). From naphash; properly, A BREATHING CREATURE, i.e. Animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental):
-- any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead(-ly), desire, X (dis-)contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart(-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-)self, them (your)-selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.

5314 naafash (naphash) נָפַשׁ (naw-fash'). A primitive root; TO BREATHE; passively, TO BE BREATHED UPON, i.e. (figuratively) REFRESHED (as if by a current of air):
-- (be) refresh selves (-ed).

Genesis 2:7 in part is quoted by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:45:

1 Corinthians 15:45 (KJV)

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

The Greek of this passage is ...

45 οὕτω καὶ γέγραπται, Ἐγένετο ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος Ἀδὰμ εἰς ψυχὴν ζωσαν. ὁ ἔσχατος Ἀδὰμ εἰς πνεῦμα ζωοποιοῦν.

Transliterated this becomes ...

45 houtoo kai gegraptai, Egeneto ho prootos anthroopos Adam eis psucheen zoosan. Ho eschatos Adam eis pneuma zoo-opoioun.

45 houtoo = 45 So/in this way
kai = and/also
gegraptai, = it-is-written,
Egeneto = Was-made
ho = the
prootos = first
anthroopos = man
Adam = Adam
eis = into
psucheen = a-breathing-creature
zoosan. = living.
Ho = The
eschatos = last
Adam = Adam
eis = into
pneuma = a-breath
zoo-opoioun. = life-making.

Stringing it all together, we get ...

45 So/in this way and/also it-is-written, Was-made the first man Adam into a-breathing-creature living. The last Adam into a-breath life-making.

And, putting it more into English word order, we get ...

45 And in this way it is written,

"The (first) man (Adam) was made into a living, breathing creature."

The last Adam into a life-making breath.

If one looks up the word "psucheen," the accusative, feminine, singular form of "psuchee," one will find,

5590 psuchee (psuche) ψυχή, ῆς, ἡ (psoo-khay'). From psuchoo (psucho); breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from pneuma, which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from zooee (zoe), which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew nepheshruwach and chay):
-- heart (+ -ily), life, mind, soul, + us, + you.

And, this word comes from ...

5594 psuchoo (psucho) ψύχω (psoo'-kho). A primary verb; to breathe (voluntarily but gently, thus differing on the one hand from pneoo (pneo), which denotes properly a forcible respiration; and on the other from the base of aeer (aer), which refers properly to an inanimate breeze), i.e. (by implication, of reduction of temperature by evaporation) to chill (figuratively):
-- wax cold.

So, relationally speaking,

psuchee : nefesh :: pneuma : ruwach :: zooee : chay. And thus, psuchee means more than just "breath" and actually, like nefesh, means "breathing creature."

Thus, this later explanation of the words, particularly of "psuchee," by Strong's writer, didn't take this into consideration in his definition! However, Paul knew that "psuchee" translated "nefesh" into the Greek, and he KNEW what the Hebrew word "nefesh" meant!

The bottom line is this: the word "soul," whether Old Testament Hebrew or New Testament Greek, means a "breathing creature!"

So, how can there be a difference between 'the resurrection of the body and the resurrection of the "breathing creature" to immortality'?

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