A Timely Subject

[other one]

5 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

To add insult to injury, my wife watched Twister, an older movie with Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt, a few days ago. Yeah, that’s entertainment, alright.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the city sewer system lift pumps did not have emergency electric backup. Guess what kind of explosions some homes endured?

That weatherman in Twister was our KWTV weatherman.

If we are out of water, I keep 70 gallons in the fresh water tank in the RV for bathroom stuff. And we have the portapotty we use in the boat for emergencies.  That's assuming the tornado didn't blow that away too.

[WilliamL]

On 4/28/2025 at 6:39 AM, Dennis1209 said:

I question if it is faith-based to be prudent in protecting yourself and your family when you see potential danger in life and limbs on the horizon, and prepare a defense.

Of course it is. Jesus told His disciples to go and buy a sword if they didn't have one.

As far as a tornado shelter goes, just making a small, crawl-into depression in the ground, and covering it with a concrete slab, is all you would really need in an emergency. Be creative. Or have a slab poured, and then hire someone to tunnel under it.

[tatwo]

On 4/28/2025 at 6:55 PM, Marathoner said:

However, the Lord is with me and so I'm not worried about a single thing. He permitted me to remain on this earth when I should have left it, so my life is in His hands. Indeed, He gave me His so I could live. I can't speak for anyone else, but I was never in a position to prepare for anything that came my way. It doesn't matter to me.

Praise God brother Marathoner!

Yup you are right...thank you for the reminder...He is my identity, my provision, my protection and my life!

Tatwo...:)

[ayin jade]

No tornadoes here, but I have been in extreme heat, hurricanes, blizzards, haboobs, thick fog, monsoon, and microbursts. Thats enough for me.

I see nothing scripturally wrong with seeking shelter or whatever is needed in weather. 

[Ray12614]

Well . . . I live in SE Michigan which is the upper/last part of the alley. So, we have tornados and left-over storms coming up from the SW states.

I have stored water in 2 gal containers, and have a basement to go to should it get really rough. Many times though, we simply sit up in our living room and watch the storm and rain bands go by with outside furniture, tree limbs, and more (no flying cows yet though LOL). I have a small portable generator for powering refrigerators and limited lighting etc. as well as non perishable food canned over summer months and gardening etc.

Lately the winters seem more severe than normal with ice storms being the greater threat. The last one wiped out many state forests in upper lower Michigan with many trails being unsafe due to falling trees etc. and homes being severely damaged as well.

Even IF I don't need my preparations, I can help those around me who might need help.

 

[Alive]

Wow! If a truck is coming at you and you know it…do you not move?

I am certain it would very much displease the Lord if not. If a tree is falling on you, do you move?

Seriously.

[Marathoner]

5 minutes ago, Alive said:

If a truck is coming at you and you know it…do you not move?

Of course. I would not want a collision to happen as this would affect more than just myself. Apart from one occasion, it's within my power to avoid such things. However, I never saw the tractor trailer hauling road equipment while it split my car like a can opener. It only registered after the fact. I remained miraculously untouched. 
 

8 minutes ago, Alive said:

If a tree is falling on you, do you move?

Yes. I'm not sure what either example has to do with the topic at hand, brother. The issue isn't being diligent to avoid trucks nor moving out of the way of a falling object, correct? It's about "prepping," something that is germane to those who have loved ones under their care (they have a "household" as it were). If I had a wife or others under a roof, I would strive to provide for them to the best of my ability. However, seeing as I do not, I'm not the least bit concerned about the entire prepping thing. Not only do I lack a permanent dwelling, but I've been a wanderer for all of my life. The Lord provides for me and always has. I'm not afraid of deprivation nor pain. 

[Ray12614]

On 4/30/2025 at 8:51 AM, Marathoner said:

Of course. I would not want a collision to happen as this would affect more than just myself. Apart from one occasion, it's within my power to avoid such things. However, I never saw the tractor trailer hauling road equipment while it split my car like a can opener. It only registered after the fact. I remained miraculously untouched. 
 

Yes. I'm not sure what either example has to do with the topic at hand, brother. The issue isn't being diligent to avoid trucks nor moving out of the way of a falling object, correct? It's about "prepping," something that is germane to those who have loved ones under their care (they have a "household" as it were). If I had a wife or others under a roof, I would strive to provide for them to the best of my ability. However, seeing as I do not, I'm not the least bit concerned about the entire prepping thing. Not only do I lack a permanent dwelling, but I've been a wanderer for all of my life. The Lord provides for me and always has. I'm not afraid of deprivation nor pain. 

Okay . . . I suppose I see where you are coming from . . . But . . . simple things . . . non of us live in an vacuum . . . surely you must have friends, family, or church members you have connections to . . . What about them ? ? ? Can you be an help to them by doing some basic preparations against what is/may come?

Just asking . . . 

[Marathoner]

21 minutes ago, Ray12614 said:

Okay . . . I suppose I see where you are coming from . . . But . . . simple things . . . non of us live in an vacuum . . . surely you must have friends, family, or church members you have connections to . . . What about them ? ? ? Can you be an help to them by doing some basic preparations against what is/may come?

Just asking . . . 

I work for the needy and the homeless. Focusing upon what the Lord sets in front of me to do is all I concern myself with. 

[Sower]

reservoir

On 5/3/2025 at 2:23 PM, Marathoner said:

I work for the needy and the homeless. Focusing upon what the Lord sets in front of me to do is all I concern myself with.

Cool.  Concerned with the present needs of others, today. Doing the right thing as led. I had mostly thought about our family and their welfare I am responsible for, and considered troubled times and their welfare. But I also considered.
   Does our God live?

My thoughts on    'This Timely Subject'   discussion.

Perspective. The distant world/ near neighbors - lost/saved - family/strangers - old/young - Rich/poor- etc etc.

Hurricanes/floods/tornadoes/fires /droughts/tsunami/volcano eruptions/no toilet paper/pandemics/wars going on right now.

Today.
Our family used to live in the boonies (silence) where the closest neighbors were a quarter mile away and maybe a dozen within a few miles. We haven't moved, but now we are surrounded by city dweller sub divisions, thousands of them. And the traffic roar. Silence maybe at two AM in the morning. Thousands of city people wanting a country setting. Bringing their city and all the city problems with them.

Many yrs back when the kids were living at home we had cattle and chickens etc. and their chores would be the livestock. A big garden, two 1 acre stock tanks, a 400' deep water well with 5000 gal reservoir tank, and a couple of my son's generators. This subject came up, end times, food water shelter etc. Everybody knew if a tornado or inland hurricane path toward us, we have a 10' deep drop in a sand stone occasional stream with steep sides 15 seconds run to go to if things got serious. Never did.

But I got to thinking way back then about what we are now talking about here today and didn't like my conclusions. If the dung hits the fan and wide spread fear covers the land, world wide suffering, no water food med supplies etc, at least we would have a supply of chicken/beef/veggies/wild grapes etc. and a faithful water supply. My son's business at the time was military surplus and I acquired a bunch of MRE's (meals ready to eat) with 7yr shelf life, two AR's, a 45, 30-30, .17HMR, my pocket 380 and my wife's 38, bucu ammo.  Our family would be safe. Right?? Trust the Lord but keep the ammo dry!

But would we. We would have to run a new fence to bring the cattle in closer away from public view lest rustling of our cows start. and where to hide the garden and keep the food safe from prying eyes. I have a family to protect and provide for, right?

But then a young man drives up to the place in his old pick up with a bunch of kids. He mentions seeing our live stock in the past  and asks if we could spare just a small portion for his very hungry family.

Should I tell him he should have prepared when he had the chance, quit begging,  and get off my property, now?  (Remember the wedding feast and those who were not wise and had no xtra oil? -bad context?). Or. Should I give them a meal to satisfy their hunger, a few glasses of cool well water in the name of Jesus to quench their thirst, and bid them good journey?

Obviously, they will get hungry again and possibly then bring others to share our present bounty of food and water. What say ye?
Should I share half of what we have today, and half of what's left tomorrow, etc till there is none left. And then cry out to God for help and some more food etc.

Or should I Trust him now, today, like Marathoner, to lead me on a straight path, loving others and sharing the good news, and doing those good works he created us for, and leave tomorrow's worry for the Lord, who will never leave or forsake me or my family, and wait for his leading.

I decided to do my part, keeping my house ready as per scripture and not become a survivalists or doomsday prepper but be concerned more about being ready to go to my eternal home. We have always had a peace about this decision. 

 

"I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread"

Thanks Marathoner...