Can you survive without a cell phone??

[tatwo]

7 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I'm sure there are some folks that might say" Err,yeah right-Brother Tatwo must watch too many sci- fi flicks" but then they don't really know you so they might not realize they just received " inside ' info from a credible source

Greetings and thank you Sister @kwikphilly...

That's a fine characterization of what...not..."some" but "most" might think. And your point about "they don't really know you" is a foundational aspect that is at "play" with these forums. It really deserves more discussion...what I say is either rejected or agreed with...and there is often no discussion...it is the same for others.

It seems that there are "few" who approach the "forum relationship" with that in view...which maybe you have. This leads the rest to form conflicting and subjective assessments...without realizing it typically. These self-assertive opinions then proceed forth from an undisciplined emotion...that they think is a spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit...when it is nothing more than an extension of their own insecurity and perhaps a smallish measure of faith.

Everything I posted is easily verifiable today via multiple sources. However as I stated...the MSM is a powerful tool of propaganda and emotional manipulation created to conceal the darkness of governments, multi-national corporations, non governmental organizations and the top level financial planners, among others.

And as such the bulk of the information coming through the corporate complicit media...is massively powerful deception. So powerful in fact...that today it has become easier to lie to humanity...than to convince them that they have been lied to.

It is all coming to light...and I am simply doing my part to reveal what I can prior to it coming upon the family of God...those who at least consider my posts are the ones I am sent to.

Clearly...as this forum reveals...these phones, tablets, computers, and any other connected device is seen as necessary and/or convenient in todays reality. I can see that...I too have experienced that as well...I helped bring digital wireless connectivity into being along with the most talented engineers and managers in the world.

I worked in what we called back in the 90's..."bloody edge technology." Since I retired...I have done my best to stay in tune with the technology that will soon come forth...as well as developing an understanding of what we are using today...my roots in tech run more deeply that most.

Modern tech in almost any flavor and variety has "hooks"...they are irresistible to the mind of the human soul...psuché...which is where the word psychology...the logos of the "psuché" comes from.

The enemy of God has mastered and dominates the human soul...largely unbeknownst to the masses. They are satiated to such a vast degree that the religious often take that soulish gratification as a blessing from God...hence the massive deception I mentioned earlier.

Tatwo...:)   

[luigi]

We're all hooked nowadays to our little sorceries;-- cell phones, tv's, refrigerators, computers, cars, etc.

Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. 

[other one]

Vivaldi browser was developed by a couple of guys in Norway.  They had built Opera and when Opera sold out to a Chinese company, the guys developed Vivaldi.  I have read it's safe, and I've read it's a scam.  I personally haven't used it so I'm not familiar with it.   Personally I use Firefox and Nord VPN for security and PCmatic for virus stuff. If you don't want any of your information gathered, I'd suggest an old flip phone and stay off the internet. Only use cash and shred all your receipts.

Personally, I don't think anything is safe on the internet from devious people or the government no matter what you use.  I actually appreciate Alexa, as she focuses adds (which you are going to get anyway) toward things I'm interested in.  Scam Email is probably the most dangerous thing we deal with.  I go to way too many places that will not load if you are blocking adds.  It's the way they make money to furnish the sites we go to. Basically the same as commercials on TV.

Google knows me well, and if you could ask it, it would tell you that I am a born again Christian and conservative patriot who often helps others.  I'm kind of proud of what the Lord has done with me in these 78 years, and don't really care who knows it.

 

[other one]

4 hours ago, Debp said:

Vivaldi browser is not connected to Google.    However you can load it onto your device from Google Play Store.   

Chromium was initially developed by Google, it is not owned by Google in the traditional sense. It's an open-source project, meaning its source code is freely available for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. Although Google leads the Chromium project and has a significant influence on its development, other companies and individuals can also contribute to it. 

 

[tatwo]

8 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Thanks for sharing,informative as usual..... as mindful and deliberate as I try to live using my device in a pretty limited capacity the only real way to keep your life private is pretty impossible these days - you don't even need a possess a single electronic device as the moment you step out of your door- satellite,street cameras & the list goes on

Yes...I understand and agree...what is somewhat surprising to me is that for those who "do not know" about the matter I am referencing...they will remain in a state of "ignorance" in regards to the enemies ever so subtle efforts to conceal his hidden desires and agenda. Which is characterized as "kill steal and destroy"...this "digital panopticon" realm and all of its trappings has and will continue to enslave humanity. 

I have been seeking the Lord about these and other dragonistic schemes for more than twenty years...as I am called to do. Following them prophetically...meaning before they come forth on this earth and upon a largely unsuspecting humanity. My vantage point is the throne of God...with the Holy Spirit who is guiding my spiritual growth and discernment.

In scenarios where this type of surveillance exists people should not merely accept it! And at the same time there is very little that can be done about it...yes I am fully aware of that as well...so what am I suggesting?

Concepts like "network state or netstate, smart city, 15 minute city, freedom city, digital nation" and there may be more...are variations of the same concept of herding humanity...and these realities are not very well understood by the typical human.

These "freedom cities" as President Trump references them...will employ technology such as "geo fencing" and its big brother the "digital panopticon" which are being used already today. This targeted surveillance and data collection is being used to...as I said in another post...predict and shape individual's behavior's.

I am not kidding here...many are coopted already and being "nudged" psychologically which can very subtly alter people's behavior...and thinking. This concept has been around for at least 30 years and may be defined in it's covert operation as..."Influencing decisions through subtle interventions." It is nothing less than a psychological operation.

They sell us on the convenience of the connected device by making it compatible with anything and everything connected...the "internet of things - IoT" and/or "the internet of bodies - IoB." The former is just that "devices" connected...the latter is just that as well..."human bodies" connected. Is the latter actually doable? 

I am not sure...but the transhumanism/eugenics reality and its subsidiaries do exist and it is extremely heavily funded and has been in research and development for nearly 100 years as I have encountered it.

Patrick Wood in his article entitled..."AI's Prime Directive: Stunning Realization From ChatGPT Itself" which unfortunately is behind a pay wall...stated that DOGE either has or may still be feeding all the data from 17 major U.S. governmental agencies...into AI...why?

Well if it is true...and I do believe that in some form it is...then what could the operators of this AI tech do with a significant portion of America's governmental and her citizens personal information? 

DHS, FEMA, HHS,CFPB, SSA, DOE, USAID, DOD, USIP, IRS, USDA, SEC, DOJ, TSA, HUD, DOI, GSA, NEH are the departments and agencies he listed. If AI is in partial or full control of all the data in these agencies...just how educated is this advanced AI?

Additionally...the strength of AI is it ability to deal with and control the inputs and outputs of "live data streams"...of which the U.S. government is the mother of all live data streams. Just how close to some type of AI control over government are we...if it is not already happening? This was all only going to be the future until it became the present anyways...right?

As a maturing son of God...who is not a movie buff nor have I ever been one...yet I think it appropriate to quote Morpheus for context here.

“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”

Interestingly that statement is eerily similar to something the Lord Yahshua is reported to have said..."Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." 

I'll just leave this here...

Tatwo...:)

[kwikphilly]

15 hours ago, tatwo said:

Greetings and thank you Sister @kwikphilly...

That's a fine characterization of what...not..."some" but "most" might think. And your point about "they don't really know you" is a foundational aspect that is at "play" with these forums. It really deserves more discussion...what I say is either rejected or agreed with...and there is often no discussion...it is the same for others.

It seems that there are "few" who approach the "forum relationship" with that in view...which maybe you have. This leads the rest to form conflicting and subjective assessments...without realizing it typically. These self-assertive opinions then proceed forth from an undisciplined emotion...that they think is a spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit...when it is nothing more than an extension of their own insecurity and perhaps a smallish measure of faith.

Everything I posted is easily verifiable today via multiple sources. However as I stated...the MSM is a powerful tool of propaganda and emotional manipulation created to conceal the darkness of governments, multi-national corporations, non governmental organizations and the top level financial planners, among others.

And as such the bulk of the information coming through the corporate complicit media...is massively powerful deception. So powerful in fact...that today it has become easier to lie to humanity...than to convince them that they have been lied to.

It is all coming to light...and I am simply doing my part to reveal what I can prior to it coming upon the family of God...those who at least consider my posts are the ones I am sent to.

Clearly...as this forum reveals...these phones, tablets, computers, and any other connected device is seen as necessary and/or convenient in todays reality. I can see that...I too have experienced that as well...I helped bring digital wireless connectivity into being along with the most talented engineers and managers in the world.

I worked in what we called back in the 90's..."bloody edge technology." Since I retired...I have done my best to stay in tune with the technology that will soon come forth...as well as developing an understanding of what we are using today...my roots in tech run more deeply that most.

Modern tech in almost any flavor and variety has "hooks"...they are irresistible to the mind of the human soul...psuché...which is where the word psychology...the logos of the "psuché" comes from.

The enemy of God has mastered and dominates the human soul...largely unbeknownst to the masses. They are satiated to such a vast degree that the religious often take that soulish gratification as a blessing from God...hence the massive deception I mentioned earlier.

Tatwo...:)   

Blessings Brother,

Well thank you,I understand exactly what you are saying- Im not anyone special but yes," relationship" is how I approach the folks (human beings  just like you & I- lol)that come to join us at WCF.... I think because I've never even sat in front of a computer before joining this Ministry and had zero experience with the internet,no social media,not even an email address prior to 2013- I got my first computer as a birthday gift so that I could join Worthy after being introduced to George

I heard many people refer to WCF as a Msg Board,a Forum,a Website and I didn't even know what that meant- I don't see merely words on a screen,I see a real person - I wanted to Encourage " people" and be of some use in a Positive & Godly Way when I was no able to go out into the world spreading the Gospel-its not a platform to write  my 3pages of whatever I need to say,like a journal or a diary- speaking AT whomever may see it.

I love talking TO & with people,getting to know them simply because Christ in me Loves them..... Brother,I think( as you did say) " perception is everything- I want to get to know my Brothers & Sisters,our guests and visitors..I can't imagine how we can think we are Representing Jesus without desiring to know who one claims to LOVE

Anyway,I see todays technology as a desensitization program,people are numb and very used to just following along for convenience sake

Eh,enough from me- I Believe I may have single handedly contributed to throwing this Thread Off Topic - I apologize to @CaptWalker for my derailment although in my own defense I do believe all we've discussed has everything to do with why we Believe we can manage perfectly well without a cell phone vs " Couldn't survive without one"-  🤣

Always a pleasure @tatwo  - you always get my attention with the info you share,especially in regards to technology

I do hope our Brothers & Sisters stay alert,pay attention and realize the enemy is very busy manipulating mankind and laying the ground work for deception like never before that has been subtly moving right along for decades- there will be a grand finale,a real show stopper!!

The Good News? Oh yea" No weapon formed against me shall prosper"!

With love in Christ,Kwik

[missmuffet]

It is possible to live without a cell phone today and even without a computer but it would be difficult. It depends on how you live your life. Technology has a powerful influence in our lives today. There is some good to technology depending on the choices that you make.

[1to3]

I appreciate warnings like  @tatwo has shared with us.

I began to see the changes commencing in my area, when they wanted to force all homeowners t0 change their analogue meters to digital ones that they could read remotely.

I did my own research then and refused.

They did however change my older reading meter to a digital one that cannot remotely gather data. 

That was over fifteen years ago and since then , you now hear how these remote reading meters cane bring on hazardous side effects to ones health.

Wen I visited the UK several times between 2001,2002 I ended up buying a cell phone. I found it useful to be able to call home, but when I returned home I never cared to purchase another cell phone as I felt and still do that my privacy was precious and that my home line with an answering machine was sufficient and that I managed all things very well with my wired land line.

In 2001-2002 I began emailing via hotmail, going to my local library to make use of their community computer do so until I got myself a computer in 2003. I used a dial up c0nection up until 2016, as there was no other option  in the country area I moved to in 2005.

When joined this forum, I still had the dial up connection with  budget plan of limited gigabit usage and so everything was very slow and I could not download from my home, There was a computer store in the next village over that allowed me to connect to its high speed internet connection by my parking my car in the front of there store to download things that I could then later on watch or listen to from home.

  Up until the autumn of 2016, a dial up connection was my only option, until they installed a wired fiber optics connections in my area . I chose to keep my fiber optic computer laptop connection wired and for privacy and other, disabled my wi-fi from my rooter, so that my connecti9n work online with wire only.

Then last year, my trusted phone company said they were discontinuing to use copper wiring on their systems and that if I wanted to continue having service with them, I had to change my phone line to their fiber optics service.

So, since I already had my fiber optic internet connections already in place since 2016, with also the wiring connection option to install a phone line, I went with the same fiber optic company that services my internet connection.There fee seemed fair enough and I have unlimited free calling access to both Canada and the U.S.A.

I noticed however, the phone quality is decent but no longer the same. And many times when I hang up from a phone call the phone sometimes rings again from the number I had previously called. Also, I no longer have the ability to make oversees 6 cent to 8 cent a min calling to Europe ( England, Germany, Sweden) that I had with my previous copper home line connection.

I still don't have a cell phone ( I have my many reasons why I don't want one)

However I am seeing the AI beast system keeps slowly advancing step by lock step and my options will become more and more limited, to the point were sadly, I will eventually most likely have no choice.

I can see that they want everybody on SMART tech online for everything

Already the Fiber oprics company (government funded) just this month changed its  name to a more progressive new name: lumi solutions and sent letters by mail informing everyone to make sure to set up their accounts and credit card banking info on their "secure" site.  Since I already had signed for automatic withdrawal with them, I did not have to change anything online.

But I am seeing that they are looking to make everything eventually online.

They say in their letter: Building Tomorrow, one pilot project at a time.

They continue saying: In the short term, we will be launching several pilot projects in key areas to test innovative technological solutions in real life situations. In the years to come, these solutins will be implemented and made available to our customers.

. Home Healtcare tools for safer more remote monitoring for seniors and their caregivers

. Smart  Agriculture technologies to optimize farm management and enrich the visitor experience.

. Local business tailor made solutions to automate processes, manage logistics and stililate growth.

All these things may seem wonderful, but I can see the downfalls as well.

Concerning talking on the phone with a human being verses text writing.

I much prefer speaking with a human being on the phone, than go online.

However the times are changing fast with the AI beast system.

About computers/laptops?

Now they are saying that all computers, latops have to be upgraded to windows 11 by this autumn if one wants to continue having security upgrades, and that if your laptop or c0mputer does not have the softwear to upgrade, you will have to buy yourself a newer model.

With windows 11 technology, they will be able to survey the person using the devices more closely.

 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/upgrade-to-windows-11-faq-fb6206a2-1a0f-448a-80f1-8668ee5b2bf9

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11arm64

 

I really don't want to upgrade.

Can anyone tech savvy, tell me if I can still keep my windows 10 without having to upgrade,to window 11?

I was thinking to just up grade my security system on my laptop ? would that be enough?

I also noticed that they have shrunk the size to reading my e-mails with hotmail to very tiny. I have to constantly go to the right side corner of my laptop and press zoom + to be able to read my mail. Before it used to be of normal reading size

The wearing down of the saints seems to have begun.

All these upgrades are also expensive and tedious.

 I am not tech savvy and would need to find another computer guy to help me as my former one is retiring.

So right now I have no tech help, plus so many other things that also need my attention, and immediate care .

These constant upgrades take up a lot energy and time and money. I don't know how they expect us all to keep on top of all these new technologies happening so fast.

Life seems to becoming more and more complicated. People are more distant than ever and many seemingly under a hypnotic spell .  With all the different types of communications devices available, people are more secluded then ever.

And deceptions is everywhere.

Dear Father God of Abraham  Issac and Jacob, help us and guide us through to Your safety by Your only begotten Son Christ Jesus I pray.

[luigi]

23 hours ago, luigi said:

We're all hooked nowadays to our little sorceries;-- cell phones, tv's, refrigerators, computers, cars, etc.

Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. 

It is our love of this world and the things in it.

 1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

[other one]

That doesn't mean you can't live and enjoy life here until the Lord returns, aligned with Jesus commands and teachings.