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by the way, federal troops have been called back to the USA (not the national guards, but the US military).... the only time they are allowed on the streets is during times of martial law, and it has been said they are coming back to be placed on the streets.....

our pop guns can do damage.... but can we withstand the force of going against our own military should the government decide that we are no longer going to be a free country?

mike

This is an insult to those of us in the military. This assumes that we would blindly follow while our freedoms were taken away.

You clearly don

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Only if you're paranoid and ignorant of how the law works and of how many good people would resist. Gimme a break. :laugh:

I thought the links were interesting, no need to be rude.

I was thinking you cant be serious. Then I lost it when i read about Fairbanks Alaska, and 2 million people. ;):P:D . Someone needs a reality check!


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by the way, federal troops have been called back to the USA (not the national guards, but the US military).... the only time they are allowed on the streets is during times of martial law, and it has been said they are coming back to be placed on the streets.....

our pop guns can do damage.... but can we withstand the force of going against our own military should the government decide that we are no longer going to be a free country?

mike

you gotta point there ,,, but like myself i think the american military would have problems with in ,,, firing on there own ,,, un troops would have to be involved ,,, the middle classes are the bulk of our military and when i was in the attude was like among my buds that a direct order to fire on cilvilans (american)would be a real problem


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by the way, federal troops have been called back to the USA (not the national guards, but the US military).... the only time they are allowed on the streets is during times of martial law, and it has been said they are coming back to be placed on the streets.....

our pop guns can do damage.... but can we withstand the force of going against our own military should the government decide that we are no longer going to be a free country?

mike

Mike, if and I do mean "IF" the military goes along with it, we will be taken over...... if they don't, they will just have to kill most of us in some kind of terrorist attack and make the rest of us disoriented and need the help of martial law to keep the peace. That is certainly possible and considering what Mayo did in China and how pleased people like David Rockefeller seemed to be about putting him in power anyway, I can tell you that those who wish for something like this would think nothing of killing 20 or 30 million people if it suited their needs.


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when i was in the military i had to fill out a survey and one of the questions asked was would i fire on american civilians ,,, i said no and wrote in further more i would defect to the civilian faction and war against the government for i pledge allegence to the constitution not the white house ...

Not to doubt you, but when were you in the military and what branch?

I have been in the Corps for 20 years and have never seen nor heard of any such survey

How does this mesh with the stockpiling of weapons to be used against fellow Americans?

navy ;uss elliot dd967 sandiego ca. comdesron 5 ,,, gse 5 eng. repair 5 team leader ,,, epce console operator ,,,sat team member ,,, lol ,i can remember in japan they gave us a m-14 and told us not to let the nuke protesters get thru the fence ,,, funny tho we had no bullets :laugh: i dont doubt they are stock piling bro but i dont think you would fire on americans any more than i would have i took thje survey when i was in port at the P.I. subic bay,,, im as loyal to the gov. as they are to me,,, i teach my kids that too the constitution is right under god and family ,,, if the government thought nam was bad they will surely hate it when they get to the ozark moutains ,,, my bro (a nam vet) army thinks like me (or i him) like my dad and uncle jack (ww2) oh yeah was court martialed in 85 (lol it happens) i was in 81 to 86 roughly (cant remember exact dates ) and i commend you for doing 20 man ,,, i wanted a family so i got out ,,,9 months at sea at a time was to long away from home ,,, mabe i woulda stayed if i went in the corps.


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i agree with hunterpoet ,,, i believe they (caeser) (the gov.) has a plan ... but it will onbly work for the major citys because even with maps and some local traitors they still wont know as much about the area i live in as i do ,,, and like the vietcon proved or the french resistence proved they wont be able to find every one ,,, and as the government is corupt getting some wepons will be as easy as bribery ,,, and also did you know that if the trucking stopped the average city would run outa food in less than 3 days ??? so see the problem ??? martial law would be suicide for our nation ,,, civil war would erupt like a valcano ,,, when i was in the military i had to fill out a survey and one of the questions asked was would i fire on american civilians ,,, i said no and wrote in further more i would defect to the civilian faction and war against the government for i pledge allegence to the constitution not the white house ... the scary thing is tho is that some ppl said they would ,,, be ye wise as serpents ,,,but gental as doves,,, love in christ arrowfrom god

Wow arrow, I had heard that those in the military were given the form you mention, but have never met anyone who actually filled it out. I applaud you for your answer. I would expect some to answer yes, but most I should think would answer as you did.

u are right ,,, it woudnt work unless they shipped in un troops


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We all know that times will be tighter for the majority of the people in the world as His day draws nearer. Everything will be harder to get. This may cause many to become outraged and rally/protest on how things are being handled at the top level. Riots may even break out in the cities, but we also have to realize one thing ... our police departments are not equipped to handle this. They know how to pull someone over for speeding and drunk driving. They know how to handle domestic issues and catch shoplifters. They do not, or most do not, know how to handle rioters and are pretty lack in crowd control.

This brings in the National Guard, and by looking at our history (Kent State), they were ill equipped in this as well. I have spoken to a couple of National Guard personal and they have told me that they are being taught how to handle rioters and crowd control. I have not spoken to anyone in the military about this subject, but I personally don't see this happening in the near future. Maybe, if we are bombed (WMD), then they may be deployed, but other then that, I see not reason.

I see no proof that our military will be used against the citizens yet. Sure, we can speculate and read into this and that, but unless we are attacked, they are just being trained for such an event, at which, I would want them to be. As for signing their name to an agreement that would put them against the citizens, well, let each man be guided by their heart.

I will add that in 71, I did not have to sign anything stating that I would stand against the citizens of the US if need be.


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by the way, federal troops have been called back to the USA (not the national guards, but the US military).... the only time they are allowed on the streets is during times of martial law, and it has been said they are coming back to be placed on the streets.....

our pop guns can do damage.... but can we withstand the force of going against our own military should the government decide that we are no longer going to be a free country?

mike

This is an insult to those of us in the military. This assumes that we would blindly follow while our freedoms were taken away.

You clearly don


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as one of my belt buckles says,

I will give up my gun(s) when they pry my cold dead fingers from the trigger.

a tag I have for my truck......

GOD, GUNS AND GUTS MADE AMERICA LETS KEEP ALL THREE.

mike


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I myself do wonder about martial law becoming a reality at some point. It is hard for me to imagine every soldier going against the general public let alone family and friends. Although many civilians would go along with it just as they go along with most anything the gov. makes laws for and many will turn in their neighbors for a meal if it comes to that. And what about those like Blackwater? I understand they were in New Orleans after the flooding. If martial law comes about I do believe there would be much a huge uprising and way too much blood would be shed.

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