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Correct - the reading <things> about The Law and Christians is confusing, and is not the Way. Everyone led by Yahuweh's (the Creator) Spirit obeys Torah, always, and loves to! Yahuweh never leads anyone to disobey, never, no not ever.

People who don't believe and love as the Creator and the Savior agree, also do not obey. Likewise, those who do not obey, neither believe as needed, nor even know what love Jesus requires is - there is no light in them at all.

1 Corinthians 8:13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to ... https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/8-13.htm Verse (Click for Chapter) ... Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, so that I will ... Therefore, if food causes my brother or sister to fall, I will never again eat meat, so that I won't cause my brother or sister to fall. ... Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your ... ‎1 Corinthians 8:13 · ‎1 Corinthians 9:1 · ‎1 Corinthians 8:12

From Scripture, I learned that true followers of Jesus will not cause another believer to trip, or sin, in any way within their power to change. Paul said he would (or did) give up ALL meat (not just the forbidden pork), in order not to "destroy" another man's soul by causing him to stumble...... (I forget the location/ reference/ exact words, but this is close).... No, Jesus and the APostles NEVER said those weak in faith, or little children, or seekers, should be stronger instead of stumbling. They always said the true (stronger) believers should STOP the offending behavior for the sake of the weaker one(s).

The Bible gives more problems than that, even for one drink. I don't have the 'list' with me currently, but it is available online easily.

People of faith , the purest heart, do not think of themselves. Their hearts and their minds are on Christ, at rest in Him, kept in perfect peace. They don't even bother trying to define faith like the pagan world does. They simply follow Jesus wherever He leads, listening to His Voice, the Voice of the Perfect Shepherd Who laid down His Life for the sheep. If the 'mind' objects, they don't listen.... (the enemy hasatan often gets to people , daily, through their minds. (yes, even believers) ) Or, as recently happened in a severe case here, the enemy gets to people through their emotions, ignoring the truth, focusing on the feelings which are wrong to start with.

Yes, yet still, it is far worse in this polluted (spiritually, mentally and physically) world/ all society/ than can be imagined.

All of the Faithful Ekklesia did struggle with sin. With self-will. With fleshly desires. Then, they were born again. As written, ALL their desires , all their self-life, fleshly life, was CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST (a finished reality, accomplished by the Father in heaven in Christ Jesus as written (not "as felt") ) .... God doesn't 'clean' up the flesh to use the flesh, no. According to all His Word, the flesh is crucified, the believer is now dead to the world, and the world is dead to the believer. THUS< A NEW CREATION >! !

QUOTE: WHAT CODEX WILL BRING What can we expect under Codex? To give you an idea, here are some important points: Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use. Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices). Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin). Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water. Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated). All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval. Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labeling. Beginning BEFORE 1950, "right under 'our' noses, yes. Hiding the truth, promoting the profit-motivated sales of drugs instead of natural preventions and helps (nutrition)..... Already many natural items are no longer available, or harder to find.... and not permitted to be used by licensed doctors.....

Some. At any rate, as written in Galatians, "society IS pernicious".... --- Jesus did not die for "society", nor try to fix it. Whatever is going on is under the influence of the prince of the power of the air, the devil, according to Ephesians. Thus, it is and will be bad for people, and getting worse until Jesus Returns.

Likewise, as God's Word has always said, everyone is already consigned under sin - dead in trespasses and sin. They (no one) has to (nor should) "wait" to find out if their life is "good enough" to pass, because already it is not. There is no one's life "good enough" to pass from death into eternal life, other than through Jesus, The Only Way. And Jesus Himself Says that He will not in any wise refuse/cast out/ anyone who comes to Him. (remember Jesus HEALED (/SAVED) EVERYONE who came to Him ; Jesus is still the same today..... ) (so COME TO HIM! )

COOL, Huh? :) Jesus always spoke as the Father directed Him to speak. Perfectly Obedient. In perfect Harmony with every Word of Yahuweh, and all of Yahuweh's Plan and Purpose. And what "He originally inspired" is perfectly in harmony with ALL that the FATHER REVEALS TO LITTLE CHILDREN TODAY (so if we are His little children, He Reveals to us today what is in perfect harmony with all of His Word, the truth today, for everyone redeemed) .... we don't have to wonder what is truth, or what is right. God reveals it. Once God reveals it, it is known (in spirit, simply and purely and perfectly accomplished by the Father as we trust Him) ....

Very true. Never accept the evil deeds (or words/ posts) even if everyone else seems to. Always say and do what God Says to say and to do, as Jesus directed in Scripture, for ALL disciples, for ALL followers of Jesus with eternal life in view. Yes, open rebuke is better than false, fake, or hidden love. Friend of foe, when directed by Jesus. Faithful are the wounds (hard words, rebuke, chastisement in line with God's Word) ... BUT they might not listen. We cannot control others, if they will listen or not. Most reject Jesus, remember ? If ANYONE could make them listen, Jesus could, but He did not. So also, we do not. We cannot make people listen. (especially on an anonymous forum) Yet those who follow Jesus will listen. Those seeking the truth from God will listen, when the truth is spoken/posted. That is a sure test for some, as disclosed in God's Word..... those who are with God will listen , those who are not will not..... and God won't force anyone to change ..... free will is so important to God.....

Almost always yes,. maybe always for some people..... (remember most people always sin, daily)

Warning others is haphazard and can be 'tricky' on any forum. Emotions are more at play than righteousness and justice. It is a good and necessary topic, but not accepted by most people....

Not just interesting. LIFE! TRUTH! GOD'S WORD ! Believe Him; Believe His Word! Many people do "want to crucify Christ for ... " their own continued pleasure (to live as they have always lived, without stopping from sinning, without turning to God to be delivered-saved-healed-redeemed in Jesus by His Blood. Many "Christians" on forums, in churches, worldwide, continue willingly sinning being told they are okay by their rebellious religious priests or leaders ..... like the blind leading the blind, (and they fall into the pit). Look via a Bible search for "in union" , expecially in the New Testament, to see how God's people live according to His Word, daily. Also, internet search "echad" with other key words: Bible, Jesus, the Father, and so on..... (WE ARE ECHAD!)

If someone is opposed to TORAH, they are with the enemy, as written in the Apocalypse (Revelation).

No, not another lie. The Truth which you choose to deny. (never did I see the truth posted by you so far in your posts).... so every post makes it impossible to witness, not more difficult. The truth will not be compromised. I don't know that George said what you posted here. In the past, the owner/admin/mods said that the unbelievers/ pagans/ ungodly heathen can post their heresies and lies, and that they can continue to , and that this was allowed on purpose so that Christians can learn to deal with that .... if that has changed I don't know, but the dis-information in your posts is easy to see sometimes, other times it is more hidden, but still not truth. The method to deal with it is simply to ignore it mostly, then if Yahuweh Permits, to post something so others have a "RED FLAG" "BRIDGE OUT!" type of notice so the readers can realize the posts are in error and not in line with God's Word nor with God's Plan nor with God's Purpose in Salvation in Christ Jesus today.

Arizona ? Delaware ? Switzerland ? btw, Who sends the earthquakes, the hurricanes, the tornados, the rains, the snows and the ice, as well as the sunshine ?

"A new commandment " ? 1 John 2 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) 2 My children, I am writing you these things so that you won’t sin. But if anyone does sin, we have Yeshua the Messiah, the Tzaddik, who pleads our cause with the Father. 2 Also, he is the kapparah for our sins — and not only for ours, but also for those of the whole world. 3 The way we can be sure we know him is if we are obeying his commands. 4 Anyone who says, “I know him,” but isn’t obeying his commands is a liar — the truth is not in him. 5 But if someone keeps doing what he says, then truly love for God has been brought to its goal in him. This is how we are sure that we are united with him. 6 A person who claims to be continuing in union with him ought to conduct his life the way he did. 7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command. On the contrary, it is an old command, which you have had from the beginning; the old command is the message which you have heard before. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command, and its reality is seen both in him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true light is already shining. 9 Anyone who claims to be in this light while hating his brother is still in the dark. 10 The person who keeps loving his brother remains in the light, and there is nothing in him that could make him trip.

I don't remember any vine that prunes itself (in Scripture, or in the world). I think pruning must be different than discipline (yes, strict discipline is necessary for life).

Yahuweh: Genesis is truth. Yahushua to unbeliever: (on judgment day) : "bye bye"

you didn't back this up either. No scripture provided to back this up. Just presumption. Don't take it personal, please, just a point on the subject level, Suppose for a moment, or longer if you wish, that an unbeliever thought they are not basically good. What then ? < shrugs > So what ? They are still an unbeliever. A lot of people in church congregations think they are basically good, but they aren't (after testing shows the truth). Thus Jesus tells them, on JUDGMENT DAY (when it is far far too late to repent) "bye bye" .......

"oddly" ? Jesus revealed the religious leaders were more interested in man's tradition than in the Creator's Word. Today the same - religious leaders are more interested in myths and fables and other writings than in the Creator's Word, and they lead multitudes to destruction.

Most churches in the world, and most commentaries, and most people , after being tested, are proven false. A good tested proven resource today is found in the worthychristianlibrary.com -- books or lessons by Godly proven men and women in line with all Scripture, without arguments going on, without squabbling like on the forums, and without errors like on all the forums. Access the LIBRARY through the link, or in the upper left of this page, HOVER THE CURSOR over "Worthy Ministries" and click on the option in the drop down menu that appears.