signs and wonder are what exactley?

[kwikphilly]

 

 

King James Bible

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.                                               Isaiah 55:8

    Wonders............................all to the Glory of God,no wonder!!!!!!!!                       With Love-in Christ,Kwik          

[saved34]

the way i read the Bible it seems that signs and wonders are not a good thing for us in the next few courses of history.

Same here, Other One. As the Apostles got older and the Gospel had pretty much been authenticated, miracles had begun to slow down. Note that Paul did not even heal Epaphras when he was sick, and told Timothy to drink some wine for his ailment. God does still heal and perform miracles, but in the real gaudy sense, like shadows of the Apostles healing people, casting out demons where all can see, raising the dead(literally), these things have slowed greatly. There is coming a time when the man of sin will fool the world by performing these type of things. He will raise the dead and perform things that look miraculous to the world.

 

 2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 

2Th 2:10  and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 

 

Those chasing "power", and wonders, instead of the Truth, will be fooled. The real power and miracle today, is God taking persons who are dead in sin, and at odds with him, and changing them to hearts of passion for him, and new creatures. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the real power of God for us today. 

[other one]

 

the way i read the Bible it seems that signs and wonders are not a good thing for us in the next few courses of history.

Same here, Other One. As the Apostles got older and the Gospel had pretty much been authenticated, miracles had begun to slow down. Note that Paul did not even heal Epaphras when he was sick, and told Timothy to drink some wine for his ailment. God does still heal and perform miracles, but in the real gaudy sense, like shadows of the Apostles healing people, casting out demons where all can see, raising the dead(literally), these things have slowed greatly. There is coming a time when the man of sin will fool the world by performing these type of things. He will raise the dead and perform things that look miraculous to the world.

 

 2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 

2Th 2:10  and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 

 

Those chasing "power", and wonders, instead of the Truth, will be fooled. The real power and miracle today, is God taking persons who are dead in sin, and at odds with him, and changing them to hearts of passion for him, and new creatures. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the real power of God for us today. 

 

Amen to that......    but I would really like to be able to pray and heal people....    not for me but for them...   I just don't like to see people suffer in this life....   I'm kind of sensitive for my wife has MS so I notice things in others more and know how it effects them.

[saved34]

 

 

the way i read the Bible it seems that signs and wonders are not a good thing for us in the next few courses of history.

Same here, Other One. As the Apostles got older and the Gospel had pretty much been authenticated, miracles had begun to slow down. Note that Paul did not even heal Epaphras when he was sick, and told Timothy to drink some wine for his ailment. God does still heal and perform miracles, but in the real gaudy sense, like shadows of the Apostles healing people, casting out demons where all can see, raising the dead(literally), these things have slowed greatly. There is coming a time when the man of sin will fool the world by performing these type of things. He will raise the dead and perform things that look miraculous to the world.

 

 2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 

2Th 2:10  and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 

 

Those chasing "power", and wonders, instead of the Truth, will be fooled. The real power and miracle today, is God taking persons who are dead in sin, and at odds with him, and changing them to hearts of passion for him, and new creatures. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the real power of God for us today. 

 

Amen to that......    but I would really like to be able to pray and heal people....    not for me but for them...   I just don't like to see people suffer in this life....   I'm kind of sensitive for my wife has MS so I notice things in others more and know how it effects them.

 

Sorry about your wife, brother.  My Mom is really sick right now and I pray for her around the clock. I'm pretty sickly my own self and need prayer. I don't doubt God for one second that he can heal, I know it's all in his time and will.

[Guest Fish Catcher Jim]

the way i read the Bible it seems that signs and wonders are not a good thing for us in the next few courses of history.

Hello Other One,

Actually for a Christian to follow after signs and wonders is not what we are called to do. We are called to have signs and wonders follow us. All signs and wonders are is a display of Gods love and power through His working through us. Another words, sick being healed and those in bondage being set free and those who are blind to see and so forth. I truly beleive as these days we are in move forward you will begin to see the body of Christ producing signs and wonders 24/7/365.

Have a very blessed week

Jim

[Guest Fish Catcher Jim]

Signs and wonders are for the unbelievers. We all should have these following our walk in Christ. These are one of the things that gets the attention of the lost and pulls them towards God. It shows them that this God is real and what His people say about Him is real. It's about God and all Glory goes to God.

Blessings

Jim

[Ezra]

Signs and wonders are for the unbelievers.

Exactly.  And when the unholy trinity produce their signs and wonders in the future, God will send strong delusion upon this earth so that they will believe the lies. The command for believers is to walk by faith, not by sight.

[angels4u]

A miracle is different how from a healing? What is a wonder. A sign I think is a back up. An added proof. Etc. Etc. Etc. I would love a clear cut definition to these things.

Question: "Why do so many people seek after signs and wonders?"

Answer:Our God is a God of wonders (Psalm 136:3-4). As the Creator and Sustainer of all that is, God has the power to suspend natural laws in order to fulfill His purposes. Miracles were a part of the ministries of Moses, Elijah and Elisha, and of course Jesus and the apostles, and their miracles primarily served the purpose of confirming their message as being from God (Hebrews 2:3-4). Today, many people still seek to experience the miraculous, and some will go to great lengths to have that experience. There may be many reasons for such a desire, and Scripture gives us at least five:

1. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they want confirmation of the truth of God. There is nothing inherently wrong with this desire. In fact, God willingly gave signs to Moses (Exodus 4:1-9) and Gideon (Judges 6:11-22) to confirm His word. Miracles can aid a person’s coming to faith, as inJohn 2:23, “Many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name.”

However, there comes a time when enough miracles have been performed—the truth has been proved—and it is time to exercise faith. When Moses hesitated to obey after a series of miracles at the burning bush, “the LORD’s anger burned” (Exodus 4:14).

Also, it is nobler in God’s sight to believewithoutneeding a miracle. Jesus visited the Samaritans, and “because of hiswordsmany more became believers” (John 4:41, emphasis added). Just a few verses later, Jesus rebukes the Galileans: “Unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders . . . you will never believe” (John 4:48). Unlike the Samaritans, the people of Galilee required signs and wonders.

2. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they do not believe the signs and wonders which have already been performed. The Pharisees ofMatthew 12were just such a lot. Jesus had been performing miracles for quite some time when a group of scribes and Pharisees came to Him with an insolent demand to see another sign. In response, Jesus condemned them as “wicked and adulterous” (Matthew 12:38-39).

They were “wicked” in that they refused to believe the signs and wonders Christ had already performed. “In spite of his wonders, they did not believe” (Psalm 78:32). Their hearts were hardened towards the truth, even after numerous public miracles. Nothing would make them believe; their hearts were as pharaoh’s, hardened after witnessing so many of Moses’ miracles in Egypt (Exodus 9:34-35).

They were “adulterous” in the spiritual sense, having left the true worship of God to follow a man-made set of rules and traditions. Not satisfied with the miracles Jesus was doing, they demanded something even greater. As commentator Matthew Barnes puts it, “They looked for signs of their own devising.” So entrenched was their rejection of Christ that, when later presented with the “sign of the prophet Jonah” (Christ’s resurrection,Matthew 12:39-40), they still would not believe.

3. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they seek an occasion to excuse their unbelief. There were people in Jesus’ day who “tested” Him by seeking a sign (Matthew 16:1;Luke 11:16). Since they specified that the sign be “from heaven,” they most likely wanted something spectacular, similar to Elijah’s calling down fire from the sky (1 Kings 18:38) or Isaiah’s causing the sun to reverse course (Isaiah 38:8). Probably, their “test” was designed to be something “too big” for Jesus to accomplish—they simply hoped He would attempt it and fail in the attempt.

4. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they are curious thrill-seekers. Like the crowds inJohn 6:2and King Herod inLuke 23:8, they want to see something sensational, but they have no real desire to know the truth of Christ.

5. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they hope to get something for themselves. After Jesus fed the multitudes, a large crowd followed Him to the other side of Galilee. Jesus saw their true motivation, however, and rebuked it: “I tell you the truth, you are looking for me, not because you saw miraculous signs but because you ate the loaves and had your fill” (John 6:26). The crowd’s desire was not to know Christ or even to see more miracles; it was simply to fill their stomachs again.

Better than seeking after a new miracle is taking God at His Word. Simple faith is more pleasing to the Lord than a reliance on a dazzling sensory experience. “Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed’” (John 20:29).

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/signs-and-wonders.html#ixzz3XILOFS7W

[Pamelasv]

Went thru my post history...

So I'm getting that a sign and a wonder are various things like a wonder could be a healing, shriveling a fig tree, etc. And sign is a back up to the word, which could be anything, but these sound like the same things to me. So signs and wonders have the same definition.

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, other one.

 

the way i read the Bible it seems that signs and wonders are not a good thing for us in the next few courses of history.

 

Depends on whose side your on!