Watchman Nee's Understanding of the Rapture

[OneLight]

Prepare for the worst ... hope for the best.

[Last Daze]

45 minutes ago, Mystic_Pizza said:

the most disturbing thing I have found about the whole situation is that if....IF....the Lord chooses to wait until post, or even mid? Those who are of the pre notion are not going to expect it at all, and may find themselves at a complete loss as to what they should do- thinking they would be in Heaven, and away from all of the nastiness that would be coming on the earth during that time, and with a mindset that is completely unprepared to deal with it.

True.  People only deliberately prepare for what they expect to encounter.  However, if someone is walking in the truth of God's word, they will be prepared even though things may not turn out as expected.  Being prepared is not a function of an exact eschatology but rather of a lifestyle of obedience to God.  Granted, having a more accurate map might help one avoid minefields, but its not a prerequisite.

[angels4u]

On 19/02/2018 at 5:22 PM, Keras said:

Yes, the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls is punishment on the ungodly, but it is quite clear that we Christians are still on earth then and the Anti-Christ does conquer us. Zechariah 14:1-2. Revelation 13:7

As we see in Revelation 12: 6-17, the faithful Christians, who did not violate the Covenant; Daniel 11:32, will be taken to a place of safety on earth, but the other Christians must remain and face the GT. Rev 12:17

I will  be with Jesus during the great tribulation days as He promised to keep us from that those days..

[wingnut-]

4 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Not sure I follow you here wing?

 

The tribulation is not about God's judgement, or His wrath.  His wrath comes afterward, at the end, following the great pressure that is applied by the enemy.  We don't serve a God of pressure, He isn't pressuring anyone into believing in Him, or there would be no free will.

[enoob57]

54 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

 

The tribulation is not about God's judgement, or His wrath.  His wrath comes afterward, at the end, following the great pressure that is applied by the enemy.  We don't serve a God of pressure, He isn't pressuring anyone into believing in Him, or there would be no free will.

not sure where you got the pressure stuff in my post ... the Bible simply says this about it these descriptive words:

(from 101 Answers to the Most Asked Questions About the End Times, by Mark Hitchcock, Copyright © 2001 by Multnomah Publishers, Inc. All rights reserved. Used by permission.)
55. What is the Tribulation period?

As its name implies, the Tribulation will not be a great time to be alive. Dr. J. Dwight Pentecost provides ten descriptive, biblical words that characterize the coming Tribulation:

· Wrath.

· Judgment.

· Indignation.

· Trial.

· Trouble.

· Destruction.

· Darkness.

· Desolation.

· Overturning.

· Punishment.

nothing about pressuring anyone to do anything but suffer it.... 

[Daniel 11:36]

The tribulation is not about God's judgement, or His wrath

[Revelation 6:12-17; 8:1-6]

Who do you think the Lord's angles are? 

Edited February 22, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[wingnut-]

15 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

not sure where you got the pressure stuff in my post ... the Bible simply says this about it these descriptive words:

(from 101 Answers to the Most Asked Questions About the End Times, by Mark Hitchcock, Copyright © 2001 by Multnomah Publishers, Inc. All rights reserved. Used by permission.)
55. What is the Tribulation period?

As its name implies, the Tribulation will not be a great time to be alive. Dr. J. Dwight Pentecost provides ten descriptive, biblical words that characterize the coming Tribulation:

· Wrath.

· Judgment.

· Indignation.

· Trial.

· Trouble.

· Destruction.

· Darkness.

· Desolation.

· Overturning.

· Punishment.

nothing about pressuring anyone to do anything but suffer it.... 

 

The word mean pressure, that is what tribulation is.  It has nothing to do with judgement or wrath of God, it is all about what the enemy is doing for that 3 1/2 year period he is waging war on the saints.

[wingnut-]

3 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

The tribulation is not about God's judgement, or His wrath

[Revelation 6:12-17; 8:1-6]

Who do you think the Lord's angles are? 

 

Which part of the definition of the word do you not understand?

 

2347 thlípsis – properly, pressure (what constricts, rubs together in a narrow place that "hems in"); tribulation, focusing on internal pressure that causes one to feel confined (restricted, "without options").

2347/thlipsis ("compression, tribulation") brings the challenge of also coping with the internal pressure caused by the tribulation, especially feeling there is "no way of escape" because "hemmed in."

Dealing with 2347/thlípsis ("compression, tribulation") is principally an "inside-out" matter. All pressure is ultimately internal and only truly dealt with by the Lord's inworking of faith. Accordingly 2347 (thlípsis) and 4102/pístis ("faith, God's inworked persuasion") are very closely connected.    

[Daniel 11:36]

"Which part of the definition of the word do you not understand?"

 

Part of what word?

I just gave you the answer and you post some stuff about nothing

[Revelation 8:2]

 

Edited February 22, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[wingnut-]

6 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Part of what word?

 

Tribulation.  All that nothing I posted is the meaning of the word.