WHO IS THE BEAST OR WHAT IS THE BEAST AND WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

[missmuffet]

We do not know who the antichrist is.Is he living right now? I don't know.He will not be in power until after the rapture.

[*Zion*]

Paragraphs do help.  As for these last days, any time and all the time is a good time to pray, whoever the anti-christ turns out to be.  Lord, equip us that we would stand.

[Last Daze]

Paragraphs do help.  As for these last days, any time and all the time is a good time to pray, whoever the anti-christ turns out to be.  Lord, equip us that we would stand.

Amen.

[n2thelight]

We do not know who the antichrist is.Is he living right now? I don't know.He will not be in power until after the rapture.

Oh but we do know ,it's non other than satan himself

We do not know who the antichrist is.Is he living right now? I don't know.He will not be in power until after the rapture.

 

The first beast is a political system.the second beast is satan himself,the mark is service......

Would you please expound upon the service you speak of?

 

Edited November 5, 2015 by n2thelight

[n2thelight]

The first beast is a political system.the second beast is satan himself,the mark is service......

Would you please expound upon the service you speak of?

Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.

You will either have the seal of God or the mark of the beast

satan can't force anyone to worship him,those that do will do so by their own freewill,although they shall do so in ignorance as they will think him to be the true Christ....

[gdemoss]

The first beast is a political system.the second beast is satan himself,the mark is service......

Would you please expound upon the service you speak of?

Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.

You will either have the seal of God or the mark of the beast

satan can't force anyone to worship him,those that do will do so by their own freewill,although they shall do so in ignorance as they will think him to be the true Christ....

Thank you.  

 

[Kan]

Counting the beasts to find out what they represent.

It is not a mistake to think that certain beasts in Revelation are Satan, because he works through whatever system he sets up on earth. But keeping this in mind, we can also be more specific as to when there is a more direct reference to Satan. This is found in Rev 12, the great red dragon, who is named the devil etc. This beast also represents earthly systems of political and religious power by which Satan rules.

For example there are 7 major Kingdoms or Empires in this world's history, one of them was Rome, which ruled at the time that John saw the vision of the dragon, and how the dragon tried to kill the child of the woman etc. Which almost every believer knows is Christ. The dragon also happens to have 7 heads, which are explained in Rev 11 and 17 as kingdoms, mountains, people, nations and beasts.

Now the first beast mentioned in Rev 13, is mentioned again in chapter 19:20, where it is thrown into the flames at the return of Christ. But notice the dragon is not thrown in when Christ returns. Instead the devil is taken captive, and faces his demise in chapter 20. Again called the dragon.

Rev 20:10 says that all three are cast into the lake of fire. The beast, the false prophet and the dragon. So Rev makes a distinction between the kingdoms or powers by which the dragon rules on earth, and the dragon himself. A beast is typically one such kingdom, and not the devil himself.

When we talk about the mark of the beast, in chapter 13, we notice that two beasts are involved, (which recently clasped hands officially for the first time, representing the union and arrangement between the two). There is the old beast and the new one which came out of the earth, where there were few people, not like the sea or waters, where there are vast populations. See Rev 17:15 for the meanings. The mark is a form of giving honor to the old beast, and it is enforced globally by the new beast.

If you want to find out exactly which beast is which kingdom, all you have to do is read Daniel and Revelation, and write down the description of each kingdom and beast you find in a vision, not counting any dragons.

Go by the descriptions and explanations of either Gabriel the angel in Daniel, or Jesus and the angels in Revelation, you will be able to see which ones match up in Daniel and Revelation, and which ones come in prophetic sequence.

The basic model to do this, is given in Daniel chapter 2 - the vision of the image made from gold. silver etc. This is an overview of the history of the world from ancient Babylon to the Kingdom of Christ soon to be. All the visions in both books follow this basic layout, so don't get caught up on miniature and futuristic applications, otherwise you will miss out everything of the past which unlocks the future.

The key to understanding the mark and the beast, is to know which is the old beast which is the most dreadful, as Daniel put it, and ruled for over 1200 years. (1260 years according to God). And which beast will enforce it.

It will be exciting when God reveals it all to you.

[SINNERSAVED]

The first beast is a political system.the second beast is satan himself,the mark is service......

Would you please expound upon the service you speak of?

Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"

This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.

You will either have the seal of God or the mark of the beast

satan can't force anyone to worship him,those that do will do so by their own freewill,although they shall do so in ignorance as they will think him to be the true Christ....

Thank you.  

 

This is correct ,and  most people will not understand this, they  are not looking for this ,for it is a sign that they are looking for and a sign will not be given, God has placed a strong delusion on the people to believe a lie,and follow there ways  for they do not seek God, and we ,continue to go around and around, about who it is and who is the antichrist, personally, it does not matter, this is not what I was looking for in a response, I am showing that we the people of today , the reader let him read and understand what the spirit is saying he that has a ear, let him hear what the spirit is telling the church, that the word of God, and faith in him ,to Believe ,and turn from our ways, being renewed in our minds and hearts and spirit, and ( Receiving the Holy Spirit) , is the seal of God, when we follow and obey and abiding in His truth , many are not seeing it, for we have many antichrists everywhere, ,but the beast is of the papacy, it is a system, and a force of demonic pressure that will be poured out on the world, and the people of our society, it is already in place, to assume the authority and the power over the people, to be amazed and wander after , the image  ? do we understand that the image is not a solid image, but the people gathered  as one the roman catholic prodestants  speaking out making  this system come to exsistance, by bringing it up into legislation and then into  the national sunday law,

that world has rejected Gods Sabbath, that's why it states in the ten commandments #4 to remember Gods holy day, and keep it holy, this would be Saturday!, not sunday which most of us are seeing being observed, ,if anyone is able to look up and read the book I stated in the beginning about the national sunday law, then you will get so much information, that you will not get in a church, and God is calling his people to come out of her ,for time is at hand, the law of God the seal is in your mind, and your right hand Is the power to carry your faith through ,to make it happen, this is my view, and if there be any doubt, please prove me wrong first, and give me a reasonable answer, for if we continue to say in this day and age that we still don't know who or what is the system of the beast, and do not see it coming to pass right in front of us, then I would say satan is doing a great job to keep the people blinded , even  to almost fool the elect, this is where this verse comes from....for this time, and for this reason, thank you for your time god blesses..

[SINNERSAVED]

Counting the beasts to find out what they represent.

It is not a mistake to think that certain beasts in Revelation are Satan, because he works through whatever system he sets up on earth. But keeping this in mind, we can also be more specific as to when there is a more direct reference to Satan. This is found in Rev 12, the great red dragon, who is named the devil etc. This beast also represents earthly systems of political and religious power by which Satan rules.

For example there are 7 major Kingdoms or Empires in this world's history, one of them was Rome, which ruled at the time that John saw the vision of the dragon, and how the dragon tried to kill the child of the woman etc. Which almost every believer knows is Christ. The dragon also happens to have 7 heads, which are explained in Rev 11 and 17 as kingdoms, mountains, people, nations and beasts.

Now the first beast mentioned in Rev 13, is mentioned again in chapter 19:20, where it is thrown into the flames at the return of Christ. But notice the dragon is not thrown in when Christ returns. Instead the devil is taken captive, and faces his demise in chapter 20. Again called the dragon.

Rev 20:10 says that all three are cast into the lake of fire. The beast, the false prophet and the dragon. So Rev makes a distinction between the kingdoms or powers by which the dragon rules on earth, and the dragon himself. A beast is typically one such kingdom, and not the devil himself.

When we talk about the mark of the beast, in chapter 13, we notice that two beasts are involved, (which recently clasped hands officially for the first time, representing the union and arrangement between the two). There is the old beast and the new one which came out of the earth, where there were few people, not like the sea or waters, where there are vast populations. See Rev 17:15 for the meanings. The mark is a form of giving honor to the old beast, and it is enforced globally by the new beast.

If you want to find out exactly which beast is which kingdom, all you have to do is read Daniel and Revelation, and write down the description of each kingdom and beast you find in a vision, not counting any dragons.

Go by the descriptions and explanations of either Gabriel the angel in Daniel, or Jesus and the angels in Revelation, you will be able to see which ones match up in Daniel and Revelation, and which ones come in prophetic sequence.

The basic model to do this, is given in Daniel chapter 2 - the vision of the image made from gold. silver etc. This is an overview of the history of the world from ancient Babylon to the Kingdom of Christ soon to be. All the visions in both books follow this basic layout, so don't get caught up on miniature and futuristic applications, otherwise you will miss out everything of the past which unlocks the future.

The key to understanding the mark and the beast, is to know which is the old beast which is the most dreadful, as Daniel put it, and ruled for over 1200 years. (1260 years according to God). And which beast will enforce it.

It will be exciting when God reveals it all to you.

Thank you for this piece  of spiritual finding for you are correct !I am shocked by the believers, saying we don't know who it is and what it might be, the bible is so clear, but yet we need to keep in mind that in the last days the great delusion, and as it was in Sodom and Gomorrah they believed in them selves and not in God, so it is the way jesus said as in the past it will be the same, also with noah, as it was, it also will be ,God knows who his elect is ,and who has a heart that is filled with his spirit , for the angels will gather his people in the end times that were sealed by God,before the wraths of his vengeance takes out the wicked and the luke warm, the fake Christians and people claiming to be of god and are not. dividing the wheat from the tares. AMEN.....

[gdemoss]

A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.  If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck and quacks like a duck it is probably a duck.  A whore walks like whore, acts like a whore and talks like a whore for she is a whore and there is a whore who is a great mystery.  Dragons draw angels from heaven using their tails and cast them to the ground.  Lions go about seeking whom they may devour.  Welcome to the brothillian jungle!  Stay close and preform His work well.  Don't  faint before the revelation of divine deliverance has come to pass and Joshua leads the charge before the angel of God.  Peace.