Why so much disagreement on the start of THE DAY?

[Alan Hales]

4 hours ago, iamlamad said:

The point you are missing is, HE WAS NOT THERE while He was on the earth and under the earth. 

Jesus WAS THERE, it's you who doesn't know how to read the Bible.

[Steve_S]

5 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, you two.

LOL! ROFL! You two are cut from the same cloth! You really do deserve each other! Thanks for the humor, but this thread is pointless.

Shalom, and good bye. May God bless you both as far as you can stretch within your limited boxes.

Removing Retrobyter from thread.

[Revelation Man]

13 hours ago, Alan Hales said:

1 Cor 15 isn't talking about our physical bodies, If you read it properly you'll see we will be changed. Vs48--53.  [V51]

Our natural body will be changed into our  heavenly bodies.

You can go argue with yourself, I am telling you it is about the flesh, thus it states the DEAD are raised INCORRUPTIBLE.....Good grief, a 5th grader could figure that out. There is no flesh when the person goes to the grave, our spirit man looks just like our flesh man. You can keep replying all you want, but its not going to change the facts. Looks like you would realize that and move on.

[iamlamad]

7 hours ago, Alan Hales said:

Jesus WAS THERE, it's you who doesn't know how to read the Bible.

Ok, then show us the verse. If He was there, show us. While you are at it, please explain to us WHY Jesus was not found worthy to open the seals in that first search John watched - the one that ended in failure so John wrote, "no man was found."

 

I hope you understand, when Jesus took on flesh, He laid aside his omnipresence attribute! With a human body, He could only be in one place at one time - and that was on earth!

(Don't misunderstand! While Jesus was limited, the Holy Spirit and God the father were not.)

Edited September 10, 2018 by iamlamad

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

I do not know if what I have to inform can help in your desideratum. Anyway, here goes:

The most High and Almighty God, in fulfilment of His Word, sent JESUS (God is a title, the Word is God, God is the Word), in the fourth Day of Creation (one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years in human calendar as said Moses (Psalms 90:v.4) 4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night, so, the Lord JESUS, the Greater Light, came here around 4.000 years after Adam.  

According Christian Calendar, from JESUS until today has passade 2.018 years,  plus 4.000 years = 6.018 years.  

According Wikepedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar ,"The Jewish calendar's epoch (reference date), 1 Tishrei AM 1, is equivalent to Monday, 7 October 3761 BC/BCE , therefore, if we goes back on history and add first 70 years of captivity in Babylon, plus 40 of the desert walk after leaving Egypt, we have a total of 3,871 years, when Seth was born and Adam was 130 years old.  

Based in the Word of God, the source of the Truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven Days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND will go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chap.5, as follow::
Adam lived …........................................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived  ............................................................................105 yrs  and begat Enosh; 
Enosh lived ............................................................................90 yrs  and begat Kenan; 
Kenan lived.............................................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel; 
Mahalalel lived ......................................................................65 yrs  and begat Jared; 
Jared lived .............................................................................162 yrs  and begat Enoch; 
Enoch lived .............................................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah; 
Methuselah lived....................................................................187 yrs  and begat Lamech; 
Lamech lived ..........................................................................182 yrs and begat Noah; 
From Noah´s birth until the Flood.......................................600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood = .............................1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. So,see the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ---------------------DURATION
I - From Adam until the Flood---------------------1,656  years (showed above)
II - From the Flood until Abraham-------------------427  years
III - From Abraham until Exodus--------------------430  years
IV - From Exodus until king Saul --------------------396  years
V - From Saul until the fall of Jerusalem ------------.--508  years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem until Jesus -----------.--587  years
Thus, from Adam until the 1st coming of Jesus ---------4,004  years
From Jesus until our days (Christian Calendar)----------2,018 years
Total from Adam until our days ---------------------6,022 years

JESUS , the Greater Light, came in the fourth Day or around 4.000 years of creation. From JESUS (fourth Day) until our days, have passed more two Days or 2.000 years, totalizing 6 complete Days or six millenniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6.018 years, in accord Christian Calendar pointing the year 2.018.

We have entered in the beginning of the first century of this seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day of God's time, that is the Great Sabbath, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance. 
 

Interesting, but I submit that you are off by a few years. Simply because the 7th trumpet will sound when the 6000 years are up, and it is at the 7th trumpet that Adam's lease runs out and Satan is cast down.  The 7th trumpet is at least 3 1/2 years into our future.

[iamlamad]

11 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, you two.

LOL! ROFL! You two are cut from the same cloth! You really do deserve each other! Thanks for the humor, but this thread is pointless.

Shalom, and good bye. May God bless you both as far as you can stretch within your limited boxes.

I know: you imagine you live outside of all boxes. 

[iamlamad]

Just now, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

We have entered in the beginning of the first century of this seventh and last millennium (year 6.018 of creation - table above), or seventh and last Day of God's time (6,000 years - midnight - beginning of the seventh Day, the Day of God's rest), that is the Great Sabbath, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance. 

What is the message of the seventh trump, in accord Scriptures? 

The kingdoms of this world are taken from Satan and given to Jesus Christ. WHY at the 7th trump? Because Adam's 6000 year lease runs out then. 

[Alan Hales]

11 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

You can go argue with yourself, I am telling you it is about the flesh, thus it states the DEAD are raised INCORRUPTIBLE.....Good grief, a 5th grader could figure that out. There is no flesh when the person goes to the grave, our spirit man looks just like our flesh man. You can keep replying all you want, but its not going to change the facts. Looks like you would realize that and move on.

I know the dead bodies will be raised up incorruptible, and I know that no flesh goes to the grave and the Spirit & soul live on.  But what has that got to do with needing a new changed body for us to get into heaven. 1 Cor 15: 49--53, Please note when we will be changed, V52, In a moment, In the twinkling of an eye, AT THE RAPTURE.   DO WAKE UP

[Alan Hales]

6 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

First you are lying about myself, because I am not a member of any sect, as you are saying, and I have nothing to do with their erroneous sound, much less with your erroneous theories and false interpretation of Scriptures. 

JESUS is sat on His throne of Judgment in this beginning of the first century os the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Judgment Seat of Christ, thus, since now we both are under His heavenly Judgment, to suffer the punishment deserved for falsifying the Scriptures and preaching lies.

The time is of punishment, only and only punishments of each one, more than this, of all nations, by the way, wicked nations.

Your erroneous teaching is the same as JWs. It's quite obvious that you aren't saved, [Born again], Because No born again Christian would ever teach such nonsense like you do.

Edited September 10, 2018 by Alan Hales

[Alan Hales]

5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Ok, then show us the verse. If He was there, show us. While you are at it, please explain to us WHY Jesus was not found worthy to open the seals in that first search John watched - the one that ended in failure so John wrote, "no man was found."

 

I hope you understand, when Jesus took on flesh, He laid aside his omnipresence attribute! With a human body, He could only be in one place at one time - and that was on earth!

(Don't misunderstand! While Jesus was limited, the Holy Spirit and God the father were not.)

Just because Rev 5: 1--5  doesn't say Jesus was at the throne, It doesn't mean He wasn't there, Because the Bible says He was there. Because v6 , Acts 7: 55. Eph 1: 20, Say Jesus was at the throne.