Trump meets with Muslims, Jews, Pope - who represents all Christians?

[other one]

2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

We do not need a power to observe the fruit and actions of a born again Christian. As Christians we are to be the salt and the light of this world. We are to make it obvious to those around us that we are followers of Jesus Christ. Please show me some examples of how Donald Trump has shown us that he is a born again Christian.

I thought you told me that being saved was a matter of faith and believing in Jesus.   You may disagree with some things he has done, but you have no way of knowing his heart or most of the things he has done to help other people that he didn't have to do....

One thing comes to mind when a young man from the West coast needed to get to the east coast for an operation and he could not get any airlines to let him fly.....  Trump sent his plane to pick the person up and deliver him to the hospital where he underwent treatment.....   and he didn't make a big issue out of it just did so.    There are hundreds of other things he has done to help people that we never hear about......   because he didn't do it for show.

He claims to believe and have faith in the Lord.

I don't know anyone who hasn't done things that they would like to have back.   It really bothers me when people judge his salvation status.   And if you are saved, you are a Christian.

[simplejeff]

Just now, Yowm said:

If you had read all the posts you would have understood.

Yes sarcasm.

 

Really?  I think you give me too much credit, perhaps,  or not enough....

I don't seek any credit - anyway it seems no one is learning from anyone else.... 

You have read all the posts right ?   Do you claim to understand ?    Did anyone learn anything ?

 

[other one]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Oh, it certainly does.  Trump is the current 'ruler'.

the constitution is the current ruler.....   Trump only fills a seat that the constitution created, but he still is under the constitution. He can't do just anything he wants to.  He has duties to fulfill and has limits on how to do them.

[BobRyan]

43 minutes ago, da_man1974 said:

I would love to have a true Christian president.  But also look at the Christians who have soiled the title as well.  Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggert, etc.  Just because someone calls themself a Christian doesn't mean they always act in. In contrast many people who may not seem Christian will do more Christian like acts.

Well it is certain that President Trump does not present himself as "President of all Christians" or as the "Christian model of a President", the Pope is promoted as the head of the Christian church by his own organization and by many news outlets. So then two very different sorts of leaders here by design.

[simplejeff]

23 minutes ago, Yowm said:

If you had read all the posts you would have understood....

 

 

19 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

......

You have read all the posts right ?   Do you claim to understand ?    Did anyone learn anything ?

 

What have you learned in line with the OP, topic, title, ?

[simplejeff]

4 hours ago, BobRyan said:

On Donald Trump's visits this week - he visits Muslim leaders, Israeli leaders, and "the Pope". 

Who is the best person to represent "All Christians" in the world? .....

Seeking the examples in GOD'S WORD,   if it is pertinent,  how did Abraham,  Moses,  Joshua,  King David and other kings,  and the judges of Israel, 

meet with and conduct business with the pagan heathen gentile nations serving idols ?

What was their 'disposition' and so forth ?

[simplejeff]

5 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Nothing much except visitors to the pope are required to wear black. Thought that an interesting tidbit.

Relates more importantly to this example from GOD'S WORD perhaps:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther+1-10... - Cached - Similar

⁵ When Haman saw that Mordecai did not bow or pay him homage, Haman was filled with wrath. ...

[simplejeff]

So then you agree that that one is not any kind of successor from Peter ?  (except in broken worldly ways not in line with God's Word)

(as this is just one of uncountable number of examples)

[other one]

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

My point was since the pope is supposedly in succession from Peter, I don't recall Peter requiring those visiting him wear any certain color.

I don't remember God telling Moses to go change clothes when they were together.....   just take his shoes off...

I'm surprised the Pope doesn't require that also.

[PlanetChee]

1 hour ago, da_man1974 said:

I would love to have a true Christian president.  But also look at the Christians who have soiled the title as well.  Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggert, etc.  Just because someone calls themself a Christian doesn't mean they always act in. In contrast many people who may not seem Christian will do more Christian like acts.

I believe we do have a Christian President.