Mike 2 Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 I am fully aware of the truth within the catholic church and some of it is horrible, but you are setting an example of accepting someones accusations as truth although it is not accompanied by proof (original post). That is not how we as Christians are to conduct ourselves particularly on a web site that may be viewed by people that are learning how to live their lives as a Christian and may be looking to guidance from us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Gary Lee said: I agree. Here are a few links to get you started. Judge yourself. I love the "group". I detest the "sinner", the RCC hierarchy https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/17/religion.childprotection click on this in above link Read the 1962 Vatican document (PDF file) for document being sought https://rudd-o.com/archives/pope-benedict-xvi-ratzinger-covering-up-pedophiles https://rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.wordpress.com/ http://www.actupny.org/YELL/catholicpriests.html This one shows many sources to more; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimen_sollicitationis It's relatively easy, for someone wanting to get to the truth, to find it with a little research. Above links took less than an hour or two to find. Much of the evidence is corroborated from many sources. Just do your homework. Love for your brother is evidence of your being born from above. Not warning of false teaching is participating with it. Someone gave me the truth forty years ago, and I left the RCC. I care nothing for giving sensationalist negative statements, about any church. What I do care for are those, like I had been, trusting a false teaching, giving them a reason to seek the gospel. Of Jesus the Christ, the head, even the head here on earth. Not a man in robes. The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. While I appreciate you providing the information to confirm the statements the OP made, please realize that requesting the OP to provide the proof themselves was to teach the OP that he has to be accountable for his own statements and accusation toward others, no matter who or what it is. It is very important if anyone accuses someone, be it one person or a group, to provide the factual evidence. Far too often people say things about others and believe it is OK to say it without providing the facts. It's not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 2 Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 8:27 PM, Gary Lee said: Catholic church history, church documentation, edicts etc, are available, if you do your homework. Order this "The dark history of the catholic church" by Michael Kerrigan -Amazon less than ten bucks. Go to UTUBE Type in: "PBS Frontline 2014 Secrets of the Vatican" A documentary that will make you ill. Ever wonder why the previous pope Pope Benedict XVI ( "Pope Emeritus" ) resigned? Not that hard to investigate, yourself. (If you really want to know) I find it totally amazing what the RCC has gotten away with, worldwide, with all the pedophiles recently exposed. Look up the history of the popes, the married ones, the ones with so many illegitimate children, some who became popes later, the times there were several popes at once, trying to kill each other. To clarify, I love, and have a heart for, all Catholics. I was one for thirty years. Most all my relatives, and many friends are still Catholic. It's the catholic hierarchy I hate, dragging down so many to the pit of hell with them. I praise God for an old preacher that planted a seed in me, that grew, and I found the light. God is Light. Not the RCC. Gary Lee thanks for the info You are getting to the point of my concern with the original post...... if you do your homework..... This isn't about me doing my homework! It's about someone posting something inflammatory without having done their homework and including it to back up what they are saying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 The dark history of Rome is very well documented...from first hand witnesses as given in such books as Foxes Book of Martyrs, or historical treatises such as Wylie's Historical books on the reformation and the Waldenses. Catholics such as I once was, brought up and instructed only in catechism and a very selective perspective of history, never learn these things concerning the dark side until we are free from Roman influence and able to conscientiously distinguish between truth and error, and break free of the fear attached to loosening oneself from the "you must obey the church or else" dictates of Rome. What helps further is true Biblical education in relation to theology...soteriology...and prophecy...all of which have been distorted and corrupted through the influence of Jesuits disguising themselves as Protestant teachers and professors even in Protestant universities and colleges. What the reformation began has yet to be completed...full and complete rejection of everything that the Vatican promulgates as "Catholic or Christian truth". What passes for Protestantism today, as well as the many independent non-denominational churches that proliferate Christianity, would unite in the truth by default in proportion to the extent to which they repudiate Roman Catholic principles and dogmas. We have a way to go to completely "come out of her My people". 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.32 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, brakelite said: The dark history of Rome is very well documented...from first hand witnesses as given in such books as Foxes Book of Martyrs, or historical treatises such as Wylie's Historical books on the reformation and the Waldenses. Catholics such as I once was, brought up and instructed only in catechism and a very selective perspective of history, never learn these things concerning the dark side until we are free from Roman influence and able to conscientiously distinguish between truth and error, and break free of the fear attached to loosening oneself from the "you must obey the church or else" dictates of Rome. What helps further is true Biblical education in relation to theology...soteriology...and prophecy...all of which have been distorted and corrupted through the influence of Jesuits disguising themselves as Protestant teachers and professors even in Protestant universities and colleges. What the reformation began has yet to be completed...full and complete rejection of everything that the Vatican promulgates as "Catholic or Christian truth". What passes for Protestantism today, as well as the many independent non-denominational churches that proliferate Christianity, would unite in the truth by default in proportion to the extent to which they repudiate Roman Catholic principles and dogmas. We have a way to go to completely "come out of her My people". Onward in the Lord peoples . Through the centuries the true have bled for JESUS , others persecuted too . many have died for proclaiming truth and standing against evil entities cloaked in wool . But I warn us all, their is blood shed coming again. If we even take a look and do research specially since two thousand we see the plans set in action. HERE is the goal . A one world all inclusive religion that DOES the work of and points too A ONE WORLD GOVT. all who resist this , will be persecuted in time to come . This is for real what is coming and what is building . And its progressed huge. Media is in on it , many politicans , One religion will sit over it , muslims , hindus, wicans, lw chritains non religious, it don't matter THEY are gathering in its mindset . I seen wicans saying they love and for unity and world peace. ITS DUG into every fabric of society now from churches , education in schools, weather stations even promote agendas , media, religions It has so many legs into its web. new age, all inclusive , seeker friendly, eastern religions , yoga institutions , ITS all over the place . Agendas run in face book , google. ITS a monster how huge it is. It is as though satan himself is now doing TWO THINGS mainly two things to lead all to this . He creates the chaos through false religions , then blames all evil on fundamentalism then offers the solution for the concept of world peace. Through sensual lies, using phrases like GOD is love , all inclusive , peace , unity ,freedom , tolerance and the thing is its working on all WHO are not in the lambs book of life . While they don't see EYE to eye on all details THEY DO SEE EYE TO EYE on the need for peace and unity for stability for world peace. And ROME leads it . You all should see members of the UN, their own words as well as other religions as well as rome. TWO FOCUSES , one is dire need for world peace and number two , they all have one thing in common. THEY BALK at the fundamental christain WHO SAYS JESUS IS , IS the only way. I have heard their own words. Making all seem so good and kind , and yet even saying things like the fundamental who resist ARE the PROBLEM. this is similar , no, its identical to how a nation was once convinced that another scapegoat was in the way. IT always begins small but gets bigger. first with this scapegoat is was things saying how evil they are , what a problem to society. but as always what begins with words ends with blood against that group. ask the jews , its how it started. six million dead. but when the whole world is going under the influence, you can bet that number will exceed it plenty times over. aka GREAT TRIBULATION. So we need to be exhorting and contending for the true faith , getting the lambs ready to understand and have no fear , to be willing and ready to die for the rightoues cause of Christ . and remembering to forgive our persecutors but to have nothing to do with this deception . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,262 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,871 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, OneLight said: While I appreciate you providing the information to confirm the statements the OP made, please realize that requesting the OP to provide the proof themselves was to teach the OP that he has to be accountable for his own statements and accusation toward others, no matter who or what it is. It is very important if anyone accuses someone, be it one person or a group, to provide the factual evidence. Far too often people say things about others and believe it is OK to say it without providing the facts. It's not. I agree, and understand, OneLight. I also am infuriated to see unsubstantiated statements, or innuendo, especially against a body claiming Christ. I saw the statement, not the pictures some referred to? Yet I was familiar with what was posted. Waited for OP to respond, then decided to volunteer info for anyone who might have doubts about it, and think it was Catholic bashing. I love Catholics, and do not bash them. I thought it important to reveal the truth, and how lurking Catholics might find the truth of more importance, than chastising the OP. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 14 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: The John Jay studies in 2000 and 2010 already proved the real problem in the Catholic Church and seminaries were instructed accordingly. But as for this secret Vatican edict from an unidentified pope, it belongs in a conspiracy forum and not General Discussion. it wasnt an unidentified pope. you didnt read the post, did you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 people are still looking for PROOF of he coverups? are you kidding?! Google will quickly lead you to legitimate evidence. also, http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ is a sad, but true and accurate source of the catholic organisations failure to report or punish pedophiles, but to reward them with fresh victims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.32 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted February 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, KiwiChristian said: it wasnt an unidentified pope. you didnt read the post, did you. Kiwi. if they love their system they will defend it to the end. We need brake lite to keep on warning out , due to he was once of that system but GOD called him out . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted February 4, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2018 I wrote this just prior to the final inauguration of Trump a year ago. This was at the height of the black lives mater protests and the inordinate focus on over-the-top police responses. Four principle emotions were running rampant throughout the United States at that time. Fear…self-preservation…anger…hatred. Also, an overwhelming distrust of western democracy due to corruption, the inability or unwillingness to face real issues, and a deep abiding suspicion that their government representatives are selling their nation out to globalist self serving power hungry banking cartels. This situation is eeringly similar to what was taking place in Europe in the 1920s, and which blinded everyone to the dangers of totalitarianism in the rise of Hitler. Tremendously popular, promising future greatness, charismatic….it was Abraham Lincoln who wisely said, perhaps prophetically, “familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage and you prepare your own limbs to wear them. Accustomed to trample on the rights of others, you have lost the genius of your own independence and become fit subjects of the first cunning tyrant who rises among you. From the ineffectiveness of liberal left wing governments are we seeing the other extreme in reaction? Is it possible that both sides may have been successfully infiltrated by the same people who are fomenting unrest on all sides deliberately to accomplish a greater purpose? Think about it. Was the behaviour of the police normal? NO!! Was the behaviour of the people normal? NO!! Is the behaviour of the left today normal? NO! What if both sides have among them agents of one who while professedly a friend to all but by division and creation of violence bring about a public reaction in favour of bringing this entity to power? Like Jesuits for example who would like nothing more than the formation of an extreme right-wing Protestant theocracy which would be under control of those self same Jesuits... (please note that all four candidates in the recent past election were closely associated with Jesuits? 2 of them attended Jesuit schools...one other was staunchly Catholic, the 4th, Clinton, her husband was Jesuit educated. Know this that whatever you learn from Jesuits, it must include political globalist Roman inspired and Roman led socialism.) ....who have been infiltrating Protestant theological seminaries and universities for decades. Then through the current ecumenical movement (like the several meetings and rallies that have been held since) hand over American democracy lock stock and barrel into the hands of Rome??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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