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TWO CAMPS

In the christian church, there are two camps .

One camp: the liberal believes that the first time the couple comes together, that’s when they committed an act of adultery by remarrying.  This view is supported by the Westminster confession of faith (the Majority view). The other camp: the conservative believes that there is a permanent state of adultery by remarrying.

I prefer the liberal camp.

WHY THE BIBLE IS ALMOST SILENT ON THIS SUBJECT

Scripture abounds with God’s original intention in marriage. . A marriage covenant is a bond: two people bonding together or cleaving to one another like super clue to be loyal in love and faithfulness till deaths do us apart.  The scripture permits divorce because of hardness of heart for the protection of the innocent party. Hardness of heart would include domestic violence; desertion, abuse of verbal divorce.

 

In the community of faith, there are consequences for having hardness of heart. Your prayers are hindered, (1Peter 3:7, Malachi 2:13-15). In Malachi, they were divorcing their wife’s for the younger pagan women and the LORD refused to accept their offering because YOU have dealt treacherously with the wife of your covenant.

 

The scripture is almost silent on the subject of divorce and remarriage without committing adultery. There is only 2 isolated exception scripture in the NT. These scripture are the subject of great debate in the Christian church. Why is the scripture silent?

 

I believe it’s because God is seeking for a Godly offspring for the dominion mandate. The dominion mandate that God gave to Adam and Eve in Genesis1, cannot be fulfilled without the divine order of loving God with all your heart and loving your spouse as Christ love the Church .God wants us to contend for the marriage covenant. The covenant is bigger than your dull emotions. The marriage covenant is bigger than adultery. Love can be ignited again (the War room movie).

 

We have to learn to love like Hosea loves Gomer. Under the definition of the Hebrew word covenant love-“Hesed”, adultery is not a ground for divorce and remarriage. Here is a love that sobs for the one it loves and longs to be reconciled back. Here is a love that knows no end to forgiveness. Here is a love that suffers long and is kind, that bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things. Here is a love that never fails.

 

Psalm 127:5- a godly marriage is so crucial for the raising up of godly children. When you have a godly marriage and are raising up godly children, then your children will be able to contend with the enemies at the gate. Taking the gate of a city is equivalent to taking a whole nation and turning it to righteousness. There is no ability to contend with the enemy at the gate when your marriage is in a mess.

 

Leviticus 21:8 the high priest was forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

Ezekiel 44:22 the sons of Zadok were forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

 

It has to do with the dominion mandate. Those who minister to the LORD within the veil and in the inner sanctuary had to keep a higher standard of purity. The LORD is seeking for purity, for a goodly seed for the dominion mandate.

 

 

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Deuteronomy and Corinthians are just two books that speak on those topics, and I believe there are more.

Just my two bits,  JJ


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Much of the Bible speaks in terms of marriage, marriage rites, marriage rights and privileges,  and in terms of marriage between humans, whether it is right or wrong for marriage union with  those of same sex, race, or even  species, and whether marriage is to be monogamous or not. Plus, the topic of whether it is best to even marry or not. As to divorce that is a concession by God because of the hardness of heart of man. God has made provision because mankind cannot obey, for mankind is totally depraved.

It is best not to get so involved with the particulars of a sin, and especially  regarding marriages type as to miss the groom of most importance, Jesus. it is like a bride flirting with a groomsman as she approaches her groom. Total devotion to the groom will suffice fully for the bride and do honor to God. 

Do not pick and choose of sins for measuring. Pick Jesus alone and solely as and when God the Holy Spirit calls specifically to each individual. Do not tarry  on along the slow step parade forward on the aisle dithering on about the antics of any of the groomsmen. Focus, Jesus alone by Jesus alone each are secured for eternity to come.

All else is distraction, a ministry of many minions of Satan.

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2 hours ago, Worship Warriors said:

TWO CAMPS

In the christian church, there are two camps .

One camp: the liberal believes that the first time the couple comes together, that’s when they committed an act of adultery by remarrying.  This view is supported by the Westminster confession of faith (the Majority view). The other camp: the conservative believes that there is a permanent state of adultery by remarrying.

 

I prefer the liberal camp.

WHY THE BIBLE IS ALMOST SILENT ON THIS SUBJECT

Scripture abounds with God’s original intention in marriage. . A marriage covenant is a bond: two people bonding together or cleaving to one another like super clue to be loyal in love and faithfulness till deaths do us apart.  The scripture permits divorce because of hardness of heart for the protection of the innocent party. Hardness of heart would include domestic violence; desertion, abuse of verbal divorce.

 

 

 

In the community of faith, there are consequences for having hardness of heart. Your prayers are hindered, (1Peter 3:7, Malachi 2:13-15). In Malachi, they were divorcing their wife’s for the younger pagan women and the LORD refused to accept their offering because YOU have dealt treacherously with the wife of your covenant.

 

 

 

The scripture is almost silent on the subject of divorce and remarriage without committing adultery. There is only 2 isolated exception scripture in the NT. These scripture are the subject of great debate in the Christian church. Why is the scripture silent?

 

 

 

I believe it’s because God is seeking for a Godly offspring for the dominion mandate. The dominion mandate that God gave to Adam and Eve in Genesis1, cannot be fulfilled without the divine order of loving God with all your heart and loving your spouse as Christ love the Church .God wants us to contend for the marriage covenant. The covenant is bigger than your dull emotions. The marriage covenant is bigger than adultery. Love can be ignited again (the War room movie).

 

 

 

We have to learn to love like Hosea loves Gomer. Under the definition of the Hebrew word covenant love-“Hesed”, adultery is not a ground for divorce and remarriage. Here is a love that sobs for the one it loves and longs to be reconciled back. Here is a love that knows no end to forgiveness. Here is a love that suffers long and is kind, that bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things. Here is a love that never fails.

 

 

 

Psalm 127:5- a godly marriage is so crucial for the raising up of godly children. When you have a godly marriage and are raising up godly children, then your children will be able to contend with the enemies at the gate. Taking the gate of a city is equivalent to taking a whole nation and turning it to righteousness. There is no ability to contend with the enemy at the gate when your marriage is in a mess.

 

 

 

Leviticus 21:8 the high priest was forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

 

Ezekiel 44:22 the sons of Zadok were forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

 

 

 

It has to do with the dominion mandate. Those who minister to the LORD within the veil and in the inner sanctuary had to keep a higher standard of purity. The LORD is seeking for purity, for a goodly seed for the dominion mandate.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think it is silent. I think it is very clear. Alot of people find truth extremely hard to accept so they want to justify personal conditions where what it says should not apply. 

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On 6/26/2019 at 6:02 AM, Worship Warriors said:

TWO CAMPS

In the christian church, there are two camps .

One camp: the liberal believes that the first time the couple comes together, that’s when they committed an act of adultery by remarrying.  This view is supported by the Westminster confession of faith (the Majority view). The other camp: the conservative believes that there is a permanent state of adultery by remarrying.

 

I prefer the liberal camp.

WHY THE BIBLE IS ALMOST SILENT ON THIS SUBJECT

Scripture abounds with God’s original intention in marriage. . A marriage covenant is a bond: two people bonding together or cleaving to one another like super clue to be loyal in love and faithfulness till deaths do us apart.  The scripture permits divorce because of hardness of heart for the protection of the innocent party. Hardness of heart would include domestic violence; desertion, abuse of verbal divorce.

 

 

 

In the community of faith, there are consequences for having hardness of heart. Your prayers are hindered, (1Peter 3:7, Malachi 2:13-15). In Malachi, they were divorcing their wife’s for the younger pagan women and the LORD refused to accept their offering because YOU have dealt treacherously with the wife of your covenant.

 

 

 

The scripture is almost silent on the subject of divorce and remarriage without committing adultery. There is only 2 isolated exception scripture in the NT. These scripture are the subject of great debate in the Christian church. Why is the scripture silent?

 

 

 

I believe it’s because God is seeking for a Godly offspring for the dominion mandate. The dominion mandate that God gave to Adam and Eve in Genesis1, cannot be fulfilled without the divine order of loving God with all your heart and loving your spouse as Christ love the Church .God wants us to contend for the marriage covenant. The covenant is bigger than your dull emotions. The marriage covenant is bigger than adultery. Love can be ignited again (the War room movie).

 

 

 

We have to learn to love like Hosea loves Gomer. Under the definition of the Hebrew word covenant love-“Hesed”, adultery is not a ground for divorce and remarriage. Here is a love that sobs for the one it loves and longs to be reconciled back. Here is a love that knows no end to forgiveness. Here is a love that suffers long and is kind, that bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things. Here is a love that never fails.

 

 

 

Psalm 127:5- a godly marriage is so crucial for the raising up of godly children. When you have a godly marriage and are raising up godly children, then your children will be able to contend with the enemies at the gate. Taking the gate of a city is equivalent to taking a whole nation and turning it to righteousness. There is no ability to contend with the enemy at the gate when your marriage is in a mess.

 

 

 

Leviticus 21:8 the high priest was forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

 

Ezekiel 44:22 the sons of Zadok were forbidden to take a divorced woman as his wife.

 

 

 

It has to do with the dominion mandate. Those who minister to the LORD within the veil and in the inner sanctuary had to keep a higher standard of purity. The LORD is seeking for purity, for a goodly seed for the dominion mandate.

 

 

 

 

 

The Bible isn’t silent on the issue. Once Jesus says something, it is law. He doesn’t have to repeat himself: 

"And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery." Matt 19:9 RSV

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In Romans 7 Paul explains how we enter into Christ by dying to the old man of the flesh and uses the example of a woman being only able to marry another after her husband be dead. Otherwise, Paul says, she will be called an adulteress.

So then legally, and spiritually, we need to die to our old selves and our own leadership over ourselves in order to walk in Christ...our new Head. We need to walk in both the death AND the life of Jesus Christ.

We can't just add Jesus to ourselves just like a woman cannot take another husband while her husband yet lives.

So then inside this theological lesson from Paul that explains how we enter INTO Christ, is the firm and clear law that God holds the married to remaining with the living HEAD of the household. So then we become "beheaded" as it were from ourselves in order that Christ might become our Head in all things.

The Head of every man is Christ for they who are In Christ. But first we must die to our own headship. You can't have 2 heads. You can't serve two masters...ourselves AND Christ.

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permitted divorce because of the hardness of our hearts. It is not part of Gods plan, but he knows us.

 

What is lacking is clear biblical teaching on marriage and on the preparations needed for marriage.

For counter cultral teaching that 'true love' does not solve all ones marital problems.

On the importance of sexual purity and of having a career.

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It’s a horror show for sure. The ideal is to get married and stay that way. But God honors marriage (between a man and woman) always. We reap whirlwinds when we divorce and then remarry. However, that marriage is valid and sanctified. He knows we are wretched I suppose. 

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I shudder when I hear the so called vows that people write for themselves these days.  They don't vow anything, most often.  They often are "I love the way you smile at me" or other silly notions, not saying they will stay true to that person till death.  The most important part of the ceremony is being eliminated.  Trust is based on fidelity and commitment.  Betrayal of those can't always be overcome even with forgiveness.

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9 minutes ago, Willa said:

I shudder when I hear the so called vows that people write for themselves these days.  They don't vow anything, most often.  They often are "I love the way you smile at me" or other silly notions, not saying they will stay true to that person till death.  The most important part of the ceremony is being eliminated.  Trust is based on fidelity and commitment.  Betrayal of those can't always be overcome even with forgiveness.

Right?  I once loved a boy who decided he didn’t love me. He wanted to play the field. Then I grew up and realized men have much to answer for to God. Women have been used cruelly throughout the ages. I’m just lucky I found a good one finally. Oh that boy realized I was best after all. I was long gone sister. Long gone. Broke his hard heart. Lol. 

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