Acceptable lies

[ReneeIW]

13 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

to which the boys said-No mummy that's a lie and you told us not to tell lies.

And then the son grew up and told lies much worse than that.

The mom was trying not to hurt someone’s feelings. No we shouldn’t lie but I suspect that lie was coming from a place of kindness and not meant to harm.

And Jehovah Witnesses always seem to show up when you’re getting out of the shower and running pass the window naked. I don’t blame anyone for saying what they have to... never mind.

[JustPassingThru]

8 hours ago, Neighbor said:

" Do you think I look fat?"

Choices;

Well in truth, yes of course you look fat, because you are fat.

Now that may be a truth, but it is immensely unkind, and harmfully mean spirited. Better the kind lie be told; 

Gee I haven't noticed that at all! You look good and healthy to me. Do you feel you want or need to be slimmer for some reason?

 

Excellent as always...

The Holy Spirit tells us:

Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man. Col 4:6

Lord bless

[johnthebaptist]

17 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

Have you noticed we Christians can excuse "acceptable " lies when the situation is one where we dont want to deal with uncomfortablr situations or persons and feel justified 

Case in point 

1) An older Christian lady once told me she raised her  sons to never lie . One day the J.witnesses came and because she didnt want to talk to them she told the boys to say my mother isn't  home (something I was asked to do as a child  as well) to which the boys said-No mummy that's a lie and you told us not to tell lies.

 we need to be conscious  and remember,Gods principles apply in every situation no matter how uncomfortable 

 

I keep wondering why Santa Claus stopped bringing me presents.

[copenhagen]

It's only become a habit in the past 6 months or so, but the large church pastor has been banging the gong pretty hard. His requests are usually not scripturally based, which seems to bother absolutely no one. 

I'm just increasingly finding church attendance and participation a big joke. It's testing my gullibility to the stretching and maybe breaking point.

[TheBlade]

A...sorry nope. Not lol sure how you got "we Christians" by one women. Ok

[LadyKay]

3 hours ago, TheBlade said:

Not lol sure how you got "we Christians" by one women.

I like that. That was a good one. 

[Coliseum]

God says He hates lying. There is no acceptable lie. But God knows we are human. When Rehab lied about the spies, God did not punish her. In fact He saved her---not because she lied---but because she turned to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and worshiped Him. When Richard Wurmbrand was tortured for his faith in Communist prisons, he lied to the interrogating officers about information regarding his brothers. The Secret Police knew he was lying and so Richard took all of the beatings for them. God sees the heart and the motives and intentions why we do things. 

[enoob57]

On 2/16/2020 at 2:41 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said:

Given the choice of hurting somebody feelings or telling a lie......I will go with the lie .And “ that” is no lie! There’s the Letter of the Law, and there is the Spirit Of The Law . To me, Spirit trumps Letter.

God will never validate righteousness by breaking His Law... We have not been given license to sin

Rom 6:14-15

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
KJV

but obedience to God's commandments 'IS' Love God has placed into us returning to Him

John 14:21

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
KJV

You are merely putting the love for the created being ahead of Loving God which is first and greatest in the summary of God

Matt 22:36-38

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.
KJV
 

[Sower]

On 2/15/2020 at 10:14 PM, creativemechanic said:

Case in point 

1) An older Christian lady once told me she raised her  sons to never lie . One day the J.witnesses came and because she didnt want to talk to them she told the boys to say my mother isn't  home (something I was asked to do as a child  as well) to which the boys said-No mummy that's a lie and you told us not to tell lies.

 we need to be conscious  and remember,Gods principles apply in every situation no matter how uncomfortable 

Way back when, I ran a business doing carpentry work. Unfortunately, much of my business was with fellow members in my church.
I would try to give them my best price, but some would hang out the "Jesus shingle" for a special 'cheaper' rate.
Never do business with friends neighbors or relatives. You will lose them eventually.
Like the story above, when they called for more work, I worked out a system with my young children.
I would step outside, and they would tell the caller I was not in the house, but would tell their dad they called.
They told the truth, and I worked on jobs that would at least put beans on the table.
Those were the lean/mean years.
I never ask my kids to lie, except when hiding gifts/presents from their mom we were making.
Somehow it never occurred to me that it might be a sin.
 

[Blood Bought 1953]

 

“ love you neighbor as yourself”

How would you respond if a very unattractive person asked you “do you think I am ugly?”

Edited February 18, 2020 by Blood Bought 1953