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“In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; but (which becometh women professing godliness).” 1 Timothy 2: 9-10

 

At a particular time, as I studied my scripture, this very scripture above, struck a chord in my spirit (witness of the Spirit). But I’m so "confused" as to why so many Christian ladies neglect its application in their dress code.

 

Worse of all, so many Christian leaders seem to be silent concerning this particular scripture. You know, we still see so many Christian sisters, dress so worldly in aberration to the above scripture. We still see sisters wear immodest attires around, even to the Church.

 

We still see Christian women adorn themselves with gold, pearl (Jewelries). Braid (Plait) their hair. Even wear costly arrays, yet no one seems to see anything wrong with it, except a few leaders that I know.

 

It amazed me the most, that even when I talked to lady minister concerning this scripture, her only defense was that, it was the Apostle Paul’s peculiar perspective. Then she also added, that if I preached that kind of doctrine in my Church, that people will not come.

 

Yes, sure enough, I believe if I preach this doctrine in its unadulterated form, many sisters (even bothers) will stop coming-although I’m not interested in only quantity, but also in quality-But the question that I’ve kept battling with-and I’m yet to get satisfying answer to is…

 

These Christian leaders that are allowing the sisters in their Churches to dress as they like, without any form of instruction, especially from the above scripture, is it that God told them, he has changed his mind concerning that injunction from Paul?

Or do they also hold the same opinion with the female preacher I consulted, that it was only Paul’s opinion then, and that it does not apply now?

 

Well, I’m not here to display any form of holier-than-thou attitude. After all, I want to make heaven, and God has told me that the only way for me to be saved, is to give myself fully to the doctrines of the scripture and also teach them to others to be saved as well (1Timothy 4: 16).

 

So please, I’m not here for any form of argument. I want you to spiritually and scripturally ponder over this scripture above by the Holy Spirit in you, and give me your opinion.

Please, let’s lay aside other people’s commentaries, unless you deem it fit, by the Spirit. Pls, let’s speak as one who will give account of our words on the Day of Judgment.

 

Honestly and spiritually, what do you make of this scripture above?

 

I’m open-Hearted to Learn.

To take this one verse of scripture out and to place all your emphasis on on the subject from a NT perspective is not rightly dividing the word. There are other scriptures in the NT on the subject that should be included that should be considered and included in the study as a whole on the subject. Instead of just trying to apply your personal spin on the subject. Therefore I will reserve my comments on the subject until you really want to look at the subject as a whole and not just one chosen verse in which you want to make your only point from. I would also like to add that there are instruction also given to men in said passage of scripture in how they are to conduct themselves and I'll ask how many men meet up to those guidelines including yourself in the church. And ask if anyone in the church is talking about that in these days or is it totally overlooked in the teachings of the church. I remember reading the word "Likewise" also....


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As long as a woman dresses conservatively, modestly and in good taste......I don't believe the church should dictate the issue.  As for jewelry and hair style, they're immaterial.  It pertains to men as well; a man should not dress immodestly either.  Although  I admit that most men don't. 


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Well here we go. :beehive:


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Would it be out of place to suggest that you follow the Holy Spirit on this? All people, depending on where they are in their walk with Christ see things differently on certain issues. I once saw some things as not offensive to me but others thought it was not being Christ like. As I continue in my walk, my mind is being renewed as the Scriptures say by the washing of the water of the word. Things change and attitudes change during different phases of your walk with Christ. Some of my family members who are Christians do not believe the same way as I do on all issues. Maybe in the future, the Holy spirit will reveal to them, through His word, that they need to conform more perfectly to His will. I know that I have conformed during the years as I learn more and more of His truths.  :read:  :read:  :read:

Welcome to Worthy!! And I agree, because no 2 people will read a passage and interpret things the same way. Life's experience and family teaching and attitude will make a person see words and pictures differently. We are all unique made so by God. We read the Word of God and different things are revealed differently to each one of us touching us in a different manner and making us who we are.


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And looking frumpy, dowdy, inelegant, shabby and colorless is not exactly spiritual either.

 

How? That implies a woman has to dress pleasing to the world if you say looking inelegant or frumpy isnt spiritual. 


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And looking frumpy, dowdy, inelegant, shabby and colorless is not exactly spiritual either.

 

How? That implies a woman has to dress pleasing to the world if you say looking inelegant or frumpy isn't spiritual. 

 

:thumbsup:

 

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63 (KJV)

 

~

 

How Is A Christian Lady Supposed to Dress?

 

:thumbsup:

 

How Is A Godly Man Supposed

 

but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28 (NASB)

 

To Look?

 

"I have made a covenant with my eyes; How then could I gaze at a virgin? Job 31:1 (NASB)

 

~

 

Prehaps Men

 

Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, Titus 2:3 (NIV)

 

Should Butt Out Of Woman's Work

 

so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored. Titus 2:3-5 (NIV)

 

Unless Prehaps, They Aspire To Become Dress Designers And Such....

 

"Know ye not

that the unrighteous shall

not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived:

neither fornicators nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,

nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves,

nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,

nor extortioners, shall inherit

the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV)

 

IMO

 

and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you, 1 Thessalonians 4:11 (NASB)

 

Love, Your Brother Joe


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Well here we go. :beehive:

Kikikiki


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Seriously, ROFL


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This is a much debated issue and i have to admit, i have struggled with this issue once too. I believe this is very subjective. We all know what the bible say pertaining this matter plus we have the verses in some of the comments above. Thus i would say this, follow your conviction. I would consider myself modest. I am quite particular with my appearance and being comfortable with what i wear. However, I don't believe in setting up rules and guidelines and forcing people to oblige to them. Then, this would bring up many other issues. Believe me, living in a country that's heading into islamization, i see the effects of it.

However, for me, to be in the Father's house or place of worship, i think the concern would be how are we entering his holy presence? How are we presenting ourselves to Him? Not so much about what others think or feel but how we present ourselves to God. I have recently started praying to Him by wearing a covering on my head at home. I usually don't even at church. Never actually. Why? Not because i wanna prove to anyone i am modest, hey! But simply because i wanna enter His presence as meek and humble, awed by his presence. I wanna approach God in reverence and fear, while at the same time talking to Him as a close friend! Like a daughter to her father. Now, regardless men or women, if the Lord suddenly appears to you, and you are dressed perhaps not appropriate... What would your reaction be? For me, i would take a blanket and cover myself maybe. Out of respect and fear. Just like adam and eve, when their eyes were opened, and God was calling out for them, they both hid as they were naked! But the amazing thing is God didnt see them as naked, but they themselves did out of fear. Now i am not saying that you must cover your head etc or wear a sack, no lol. That is my personal conviction. What i am trying to say is that, dress not for others but how you wish to present yourselves to the Lord and in how you would like to represent Him in your daily lives. Regardless of what you wear, do it for the glory of God and never judge others for not dressing "accordingly". You may dress all modestly, but that doesn't prove your heart is. Others may dress like a prostitute if you like to call it that way, but she may be closer to God than you think. God bless.

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