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    • @BibleGuy Remember that we’re talking about an Old Covenant and a New Covenant.   Hebrews 8:13 King James Version (KJV) 13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
    • Acts Ctp 21:  "James and all the elders" told Paul to offer sacrifice and pay for the sacrifices of the other men who had taken the Nazarite Vow, "so that all those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the law."  So Paul acted his part as a Jew, in order to reach Jews.  1 Corinthians 9:20 "And to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, though not being myself under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law; (1Co 9:20 NAS)   VERSE 25:  "But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from [eating] blood, from things strangled and from sexual immorality."    It was obviously NOT a sin for Gentile converts NOT to offer sacrifices.  In fact, they were told NOT TO.  It was NOT even a sin for believing Jews NOT to offer sacrifices.  Paul stayed away for some 14 years.  He even ate meat offered to idols, explaining that the idols couldn't change the food.  Everything in the markets of pagan cities was presented to idols before being sold (except the vegetables).  Paul did not tell folks to eat only vegetables.  He said that some ate only vegetables, and that mature believers should not do anything to cause a brother to stumble or doubt.  And it was NOT a sin for believing Jews to offer sacrifices.  The LORD never directly told them to stop.  He just allowed that Temple to be destroyed, thus making it impossible.  I don't believe we should hold those believing Jews up as examples for how we should live today, or as examples of what the LORD will do (re: a Temple) in the future.  There WILL be a Temple.  We - the redeemed - may (or may not) be instructed by Christ, to present the blood of dead animals to God.  I personally DO NOT believe that we will.  The Temple of Jerusalem has been gone for more years than it stood.  The Tabernacle of old went through so much turmoil after crossing Jordan, that folks back then weren't even sure where they should bring sacrifices, or who should officially be High Priest.  At one time there were two men claiming that office.   By the time of Christ, the office of High Priest was appointed by the Romans (who understood its power).  Annas and his 5 sons + 1 son in law (Ciaphas) had rotated the position among them.  So much for the purity of the priesthood, at that time.  (I'm not saying they were all corrupt.  Many were very devout.  Many believed on Jesus as the Messiah.) 
    • I read jn 1:14 and would like to discuss, Just So I know I understand you correctly you are saying that you think Jesus is the Torah?
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    • The lady had a life-threatening experience with E. coli a few years ago because of tainted produce bought from a large grocery chain so I understand what you mean, missmuffet. I think that what's happening is a reflection of this ungodly world of men where people are treated like faceless cattle, commodities to be bought and sold. Cheap labor... high demand... and hopelessness all combine to create an environment where carelessness/thoughtlessness is the rule of thumb. Yes, we know about recalls of peanut butter... cantaloupes (some people have lost their lives to pathogens born by that one)… I'm sure we could work on it and build quite an impressive (but depressing) list of these things.  
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