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    • James was writing to the 12 Tribes of Israel. His is the earliest writing .... he still lingered in Judaism. It is related to the Book of Hebrews, written to the Hebrews, who were being warned not to remain in Judaism. The Hebrew (Jewish) folk clearly understood that their religion was organized.  Religion is organized. It sets forth steps for one to use in accessing a deity and maintaining a relationship with it. Think about those religions that require strict obedience to a formula, and then send one back to square one if there is a misstep.  Christianity is just the opposite. It is not organized. There are no steps to diligently follow in becoming a Christian or remaining one. Nothing any of us can do will create a God-based identity. The Holy Spirit calls upon each of us to realize that we are lost; we then are drawn to confessing Jesus as Savior (Romans 10:8-13). We don't decide that we are lost and then decide to confess. It is all of God, none of us. We then can never go back to square one; Jesus paid it all! (Romans 8:1). What are some examples of organized religion? Judaism, and any supposedly Christian body that resorts to "systems" for obtaining and retaining salvation, without ever having responded to the call of the Holy Spirit. "Religiously" following an organizational structure, as in Judaism, is a substitute for the Grace offered by God to that people group in the Abrahamic Covenant, resulting in the Law of Moses; structured living  impossible to maintain, then violating and adding, creating more and more structure. Result? Jesus, the restoration of Grace, extended to everyone through Paul. Structure gone; it no longer had a purpose.   What is the one and only example for a Christian? Grace. God's Amazing Grace, in response to each individual's confession of Jesus as Savior, the indwelling Holy Spirit leading the way as we follow Him. "Lostness" gone, eternity secured.  Sadly, Christian denominations have strayed from pure Grace, teaching as doctrine our human machinations (sometimes complicated, some times simplistic maneuvering to establish a theory). They have injected a works salvation, works in order to gain salvation, works in order to maintain it. Millions of confused and outright misguided seekers and finders of our Christian faith toil in ignorance of God's Amazing Grace, striving to find Him and please Him: exhausting tasks.  Religion says, "Depend on structure, rules, regulations, commands, traditions, 'holy' traditions, recalled, restored, organized and delivered by earthly authorities. Be obedient, lest you fall!" Christianity says Jesus is Lord. He is our Savior and Sustainer. Our lost estate vanished with Him......we were crucified with Him.  "No more night, no more pain, no more tears, never crying again; praises to the Great I AM, we will live in the Light of the Risen Lamb."        
    • The analogy breaks down for me.  In the wilderness God is with the people and guiding them.  They are still rebellious and hard hearted.  They have to die and only the young--the new life enters the promised land.  This is not heaven.  It is a land of giants and battles.  It is for the young men who must overcome the evil one.   They must walk in perfect obedience to God to do this.  But they are not perfect.  Only Jesus is Perfect and defeated the evil one at the cross.  He supplied the only entrance into the New Jerusalem
    • I think the context of the OP is in Christian Forums, not on the battlefield or in a football game or even a debate with an unbeliever.
    • If I am Jesus or not does not change if being unkind is a sin or not.  If if it a sin for me to be unkind, then it would be a sin for everyone, inducing Jesus during his time as a human on this earth.   Whether I am Jesus or not does not change this fact.  So, the question remains, were those kind words by Jesus?
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