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    • Shalom, HAZARD. Okay, as promised, let's look at your list and make some corrections. I'm going to remove the N.F. entries, because we basically agree about Noach's Flood: L.F. Earth made waste (Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).
      No, actually the earth WAS a waste before it had been formed. When we mine bauxite from the ground, it's a perfectly natural mineral as found; however, it is not, in its natural state, useful. When we MELT it down to a liquid and remove the impurities, we form a NEW material, the metal called "aluminum." God created a perfect planet, but it was not yet formed into the useful things needed to support life!

      L.F. Earth made empty (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23).
      No, actually the earth WAS ALREADY empty because none of the living things we see were yet made as we see them today.

      L.F. Earth made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
      No. (You keep using the word "made.") Actually, the earth was first created in darkness. THEN, God created the light!

      L.F. No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
      Right! However, that's because "heaven" (the "sky") hadn't been created, yet!

      L.F. No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
      Right again! Again, that's because the light hadn't been created, yet! L.F. All vegetation destroyed Gen. 1:2 ; 2:5-6 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
      No, no vegetation had been created, yet! There was nothing yet to destroy!

      L.F. No continued abating of the waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12).
      That's because the waters came FIRST! THEN, the land was raised out of the waters below the sky!

      L.F. Waters taken off the earth in one day (Gen. 1:10).
      Correct. However, the earth - the land - hadn't yet appeared! 

      L.F. God supernaturally takes waters off the earth (Gen. 1:6-12).
      Yes, but that was also true for the Flood of Noach's day. EVERYTHING that God does is "supernatural!"

      L.F. No rebuke or miraculous work in fled away (Gen. 1:6-12 ; Ps. 104:7).
      Again, Psalm 104:7 is about Noach's Flood, but no "rebuke" was necessary during the original Creation! All was pronounced "very good!"

      L.F. The waters on earth in Gen. 1:2, hasted away when rebuked (Gen. 1:6-2 [12?] ; Ps. 104:9).
      No, God didn't have to "rebuke" anything, not even the waters, when He was creating. (Psalm 104 is about Noach's Flood!)

      L.F. All fish were totally destroyed in flood of Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
      No, none of the fish had ever existed before Day 5! (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah!)

      L.F. No Fowls left on the earth after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
      No, none of the birds had ever existed before Day 5! (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah!)

      L.F. No animals left after (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).
      No, none of the land animals had ever existed before Day 6! (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah, and 2 Peter 3:5-6 is about Noach's Flood!)

      L.F. No man left on earth in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).
      No, none of the human beings had ever existed before Day 6! (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah, and 2 Peter 3:5-6 is about Noach's Flood!)

      L.F. No social system left at all in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).
      No, since none of the human beings had ever existed before Day 6, obviously none of their social systems could have existed before Day 6! (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah, and 2 Peter 3:5-6 is about Noach's Flood!) L.F. No ark made to save men in Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26 ; 2 Pet. 3:5-6).
      Of course not! There were no "men" to save before Day 6! (See above.) (I'm going to switch the last two.) L.F. Result: became necessary to make new life on earth (Gen. 1:3-2 : 25 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Eph. 3:11).
      No. No such result occurred because it was NOT necessary. God was making new life on earth FOR THE FIRST TIME! L.F. Cause: fall of Lucifer, now Satan (Isa. 14:12-14; Jer. 4:23-26; Ezek. 28:11-17 ; Luke 10:18).
      Ah! Now, THERE'S the rub! THIS is what this nonsense is all about; you're stretching for an explanation of how and when haSatan came to be. (Jeremiah 4 is about the Captivity of Y'hudah, and Luke 10:18 is about "haSatan falling from the sky like lightning" when the 70 apostles returned saying, "Even the demons are subject to us!") Let's look at Isaiah 14:12-14 IN CONTEXT: Isaiah 14:1-32
      1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
      2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
      3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
      4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
      5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
      6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
      7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
      8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
      9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
      10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
      11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
      12 How art thou fallen from heaven (Hebrew: mishaamayim = from-[the]-skies), O Lucifer (Hebrew: Heeyleel = the "morning-star," Venus), son of the morning (Hebrew: ben-shaachar = "son-of-dawn")! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
      13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven (Hebrew: hashaamayim e`eleh = I-will-rise [to] the-skies), I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation (Hebrew: b-har mow'eed = "in-[the]-mountain of-[the]-feast/festival"), in the sides of the north:
      14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High (Hebrew: l-`Elyown = "to-[the]-Almighty").
      15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell (Hebrew: el sh'owl = "to [the]-grave"), to the sides of the pit.
      16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (Hebrew: haa'iysh = "the-male/man") that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
      17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
      18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
      19 But thou art cast out of thy grave (Hebrew: miqiVrkhaa = from-thy-sepulchre) like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
      20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
      21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
      22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.
      23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the Lord of hosts.
      24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
      25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
      26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.
      27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?
      28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.
      29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
      30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.
      31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
      32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
      KJV And, let's also look at Ezekiel's prophecy: Ezekiel 28:1-26
      1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
      2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man (Hebrew: aadaam = "a-red-[man]"), and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
      3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
      4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
      5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:
      6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
      7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
      8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
      9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
      10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
      11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
      12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
      13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
      14 Thou art the anointed cherub (Hebrew: kruwV = a-winged-ox) that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
      15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
      16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
      17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
      18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
      19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
      20 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
      21 Son of man, set thy face against Zidon, and prophesy against it,
      22 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Zidon; and I will be glorified in the midst of thee: and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall have executed judgments in her, and shall be sanctified in her.
      23 For I will send into her pestilence, and blood into her streets; and the wounded shall be judged in the midst of her by the sword upon her on every side; and they shall know that I am the LORD.
      24 And there shall be no more a pricking brier unto the house of Israel, nor any grieving thorn of all that are round about them, that despised them; and they shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
      25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob.
      26 And they shall dwell safely therein, and shall build houses, and plant vineyards; yea, they shall dwell with confidence, when I have executed judgments upon all those that despise them round about them; and they shall know that I am the LORD their God.
      KJV So, Yesha`yahu (Isaiah) was talking about the king of Bavel (Babylon), and Yechezk'el (Ezekiel) was talking about the king of Tsor (Tyre). Regarding haSatan, remember what is written in Revelation: Revelation 12:7-10
      7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
      8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
      9 And the great dragon (huge dragon) was cast out, that old serpent (original snake), called "the Devil" ("the Slanderer"), and "Satan" ("the Enemy"), which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
      10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
      KJV Revelation 20:1-3
      1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
      2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent (original snake), which is the Devil (the Slanderer), and Satan (Enemy), and bound him a thousand years,
      3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
      KJV That's who he is.
    • Scripture is pretty clear about providing for our own household as someone has already mentioned and given the scripture reference.  It matters not how much money one makes more than the other as long as your needs are being met and the bills are paid.  Certainly nothing to be fighting over.
    • Still have and use my first bible. Had to have rebound  twice. Too many notes and scratches to start over. Family thrift, flea markets.garage sales, usually have older and used bibles really cheap, as they say they don't sell very well. I pick up all the little new testament with psalms and proverbs bibles a lot, usually a dollar or less. And keep a stack of the large expanded amplified bibles for those who seem to show an interest. They are less than five bucks on ebay, usually, for the paper backed. Usually pretty easy to get a conversation steered towards God after talking to the lumber delivery drivers or other delivery men. Being raised by depression era mom and grandmother, I learned to be sorta cheap. Frugal. A couple of good books to pass out also is ......The late great planet earth by Hal Lindsey (four bucks, free shipping, ebay) and ...Outcry in the Barrio: Freddie Garcia, Ninfa Garcia   (also four bucks)   drug addicts turning to Christ, a true story............ Both good reads, story form, with salvation plan uppermost.                                                                                                                                                   .                                                I don't care which version, but I got a good start myself with an old living bible, then KJV, also Strongs exhaustive concordance, if you still like to flip pages.                e-Sword is free  download for the PC. Fast and quick searches. The above books were shown for passing out to try to plant a seed, used book pricing. In Him Who is Semper Fidelis  
    • Again, man was created in God's image not the animals. Many things animals do instinctively, man does not do. Lot was considered righteous because  he believed the promise given to Abraham. We are (reckoned) righteous when we believe in Jesus also, but that does not mean all our actions are righteous. Lot allowed his daughters to get him drunk...not the best move of a 'righteous' man. Gen 19:31-36
    • I certainly is not suggesting that the Patriarch's were animals.  Just drawing the reference to show that if animals protect their offspring so much, then man naturally has those instincts and human moral values too.    Yes, different cultures has their customs to treat their guest with respect ect, but not let abuse to that extent.   Also, the Bible does say, Lot was a righteous man. 2 Peter 2King James Version (KJV) 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
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