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    • Sure it will, but their not too much further away; destiny is for only a remnant to survive. Romans 9:27, Isaiah 6:11-13 I believe that Isaiah 3:1-9, will come to pass very soon. Maybe Netanyahu will be struck on the cheek..... Micah 5:1
    • That seems unfair. The state of Israel will exist as required, as it does today, right now. I was speaking to what is happening now with the state of Israel and the Arabs.  Bringing up the ultimate destiny of the State of Israel then arguing against it or for it wasn't my point. 
    • I don't think God takes the counsel of mankind as to what is just and what isn't. I'm convinced He has very specific rules and regulations in that regard.  Sure, if one doesn't look at all the evidence. I think it just a matter of listening to the One who inspired the written text. Rev 14 “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever. Day and night there is no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” I suppose if the text said 'forever' without the the other 'ever' then maybe its just an age or a specific duration. 'Forever and ever' reads like 'age after age', 'eon after eon'...without end.  Jude 7In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire. 2 Thess 1 9They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from the presence of the Lord and the glory of His might, Matt 25 46And they will go away into eternal punishment, This word used, eternal, is translated from a Greek term that means 'eternal'. Eternal is forever.  This same word is used in the context of eternal life, which we all accept as meaning 'eternal life', 'living forever', 'never dying', for eternity.  But when it comes to eternal punishment, it now doesn't mean 'forever'?    
    • Don't add your response into my original post, unethical standards for debate! Jesus Is The Lord
    • My thread from almost 10 years ago on here shows the first 7 English translations were DEPPARRTURE, not Falling Away. The KJV (Church of England) were taking a POT SHOT at the RCC. The word means Departure. When the Church Departs the Holy Spirit STOPS BLOCKING the AC from coming forth (he is taken out of the way). The whole reason Paul was telling the Thessalonians not to fear was vs. 1, the Gathering unto Christ. Read my old post it explains everything to a tee.    Its much worse than that, Obama quoted a man who lied about what Scientists said, its just the opposite   READ THI Forbes: The 97% of Scientists Agree is a 100% Wrong https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/
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