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    • Diaste
      The Olivet Discourse

      By Diaste · Posted

      I have no clue what you are pointing out here. Its obvious the wrath of God and the Lamb begins at the 6th seal. Meaning what comes before is not God's wrath. Which would be most of the last week. Meaning the start of the week right up to wrath, is not wrath, supporting what many of us say in regards to the rapture; that the church is taken out before the wrath of God, at the 6th seal, deep into the last week, after enduring the trials of the beast. "You might be able to argue the first 5 seals aren't the wrath of God, but with the 6th, that can no longer be successfully maintained by even the staunchest believer in mid/ post-trib eschatology"  Only pretrib doctrine would argue against your above quote as it defies a bedrock premise.  What is your point?
    • Hadasa
      Is there a better way to 'do Church'?

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      20For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.”  Matthew 18:20 The first churches were in people houses if it was good enough for the first believers it is good for today's believers. Faith, that is the point of any assembly of God. That is what church means (assembly of believers). Where the faithful come together Christ is there. I do not believe we need pastors and priest to follow Christ. We in Christ are all Arks of the Covenant. It is what God intended us to be in His Son. I do not need someone to transform the Bread and wine to the Body and Blood of Christ because it is the Holy Spirit which does. Baptism -any believer can perform on another coming to the faith. Mourning Turned to Joy Jeremiah 31:32-33
      …32It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt—a covenant they broke even though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. 33“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD, I will put My law in their minds and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they will be My people. 34No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity and remember their sins no more.”… I believe the predestined, elected chosen need not be taught by anyone , for they all know the Lord. He makes all His -full of Wisdom and all spiritual gifts. I am sound in my faith and follow no one but the Lamb. God Bless!  
    • Hadasa
      Dying to self

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      Would you say dying to self is applying all the Tenets of faith Christ laid? Does His supper aid in death to one's self?
    • Diaste
      The Olivet Discourse

      By Diaste · Posted

      Conflating 'great tribulation' with wrath, and equating the last week with wrath leads to false conclusions. The entire pretrib doctrine is based this false equivalency. But you don't see it. It seems better to believe this I suppose.  The problem with pretrib doctrine is not in the scriptures, it's in the desire for an acceptable outcome, at least for those so affected.  How do you explain the church avoiding 7 years of wrath while condemning an untold number of believers in Jesus to the very wrath from which pretrib promises an escape? In other words, the church gets raptured and avoids the wrath of God, but the poor souls who come to Jesus during the 70th week, immediately upon being born again, suffer the wrath of God. Not possible if 'we are not appointed to wrath'.  Is God not telling the truth, or the doctrine? Maybe you think the current church is special and is granted special treatment.  I guess pretrib doctrine must think tribulation saints are a lesser group not under the protection of 'we are not appointed to wrath'. In any case the doctrine fails at the foundation. But you go ahead and believe what you like, that's your privilege and burden.
    • shiloh357
      Is there a better way to 'do Church'?

      By shiloh357 · Posted

      I am familiar with several missionaries around the world and I am familiar with their expenses and they get what convention has agreed to pay them.  Some of them take the money they receive and put that money back into the ministries they are involved in.  They work hard and have sacrificed a lot to serve and some of them are serving in areas that are very hostile to the Gospel and they literally risking their lives.  So I don't have a problem with the salaries they being paid.   If you think it is wrong for them to receive those salaries, you are free to write to the IMB and explain that to them.

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