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    • Are you referring to the alignments coming up in 2017?
    • After being a Christian for a long time, how do you regain lost joy?
    • This is a thorny issue.  Allow me to offer an alternate view: The "heads" are the titular heads of a long-lived spiritual entity: Rome.
      At the time of the end-times, five have "fallen" - they are long passed, having died.  Hitler was one I'd guess.  
      One is - that is presently exists at the time of the end: i.e., the anti-Christ - the central villain in the story of the one 'seven'.
      One will be - the future leader Satan raises up after the Millennium rule has ended.  This uprising is short-lived, and results in complete, technically 100% as we would label it, destruction: no Remnant / no survivors. The ten horns, are the ten "kings" who do not have respective kingdoms first, but only become kings with the formation of the fourth terrible beast.
      In an alternate view, they would named as "ministers" who rule the council who coordinates and controls the various body parts and limbs of the fourth terrible beast: the other three beasts who make it up.
      It is from this circle of ruling ministers that the little horn, the anti-Christ arises, hamstringing (the actual meaning of 'uproot') three of them, and having sway over them. The beast itself is an eighth king because it is also a spiritual entity who "rules".
      In Revelation 16:13, as the dragon of a nation, - not dragon Satan - it is possessed.
      Satan is not this dragon, although he certainly is portrayed as a dragon in Revelation 12:7.
      Satan as the consummate demon, needs no demonic possession to guide him.  He directs demonic possession in others to do his bidding.
      So the "beast" itself is more than just representative of a generational government of man over the centuries - it has a life of its own, so to speak. - Now you say the beast is still in the abyss.
      I disagree.
      The beast of a nation, this dragon-beast-nation, is not only present, he has been around for a long time. In 2Pe 3:19, Peter writes a revelation Jesus gave to him of His time in the grave: He went from Paradise, where He said to the thief on His Right they would go that day, to a deeper, and probably darker place: the place where spirits from the time of Noah were imprisoned.  This may be in the chasm Jesus described in the only description of where it is that we go when we die in the Bible in Luke 16; which separates Paradise from Hades. At any rate, those spirits are imprisoned, and Jesus has the key.  He alone can leave Paradise and He is mobile even in death while we are not.  He makes an announcement to those evil spirits. And with the fifth Trumpet, the demonic is let loose.  I put it to you, that they are the same ones who have been imprisoned for so long. The demonic spirits let loose with the First Woe are not the same as the dragon-beast-nation we're dealing with when the fourth terrible beast is realized as a literal reality on this earth.
      And in my opinion, we are citizens of one of the first nation-beasts to make up that fourth terrible beast - the winged lion whose wings are plucked, and he is set up like a man and a heart of man is given to him.
      We are, in my opinion, already squarely in the belly of the beast - or better yet - his mouth piece because that is the part of the fourth terrible beast the first beast of Daniel 7 is in Revelation 13:2.
    • George,  I find it very interesting that the vision John saw in the sky will actually be in the sky.  It hasn't been there for at least 6000 years and won't be for at least another 7000 years.
    • I would say that the sun/moon/star event happens on one day, and the Rapture happens on the very next day, when a "day" begins in Hebrew fashion at sunset."
        Here, you make one of a couple of common mistakes many make in reading what Paul wrote. 2Th 2:8b …whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. This one half verse by itself could lead a reader to conclude that the Day of the Lord coincides with the final destruction of the man of lawlessness.  Indeed, without the other multiple accounts of God’s Wrath in the end-times, concluding that a single stroke by the sword emanating from Jesus’ mouth as figuratively represented in Revelation 19:15 finishes the conflagration enveloping the world would be reasonable.  The conventional Post-Tribulation eschatology uses this verse myopically precluding other conditional facts and linear sequences and has the Day of the Lord be either the Day to end all, or lengthens the Day of the Lord to encompass Wrath which is not explicitly connected to it.  Looking at this verse solely leads to battling verses and without keeping the big picture in view, typifies the history of prophetic interpretation without a sequence-of-events paradigm.  Looking at the verbs can shed some light at how a sequence-of-events perspective can view this verse in light of other prophetic timelines. The verb overthrow comes from anaireō and it means in the nominal sense: “take up,” “take away,” “make an end” (ECB p1631).  Furthermore, the word is a conjunction of aná and hairéō.  hairéō means “to take,” “to win,” “to comprehend,” or “to select” (TDNT p27).  The first part: aná lends either an emphatic meaning or the sense of “up.”  Figuratively, it means to take away violently and so to put to death, kill, slay, or murder.  The use of anaireō here by Paul is in the future tense, indicative mood, and active voice.  Jesus will do this stated as a fact. The verb destroy comes from katargeō and in the nominal sense it means: “to render inoperative,” “to abolish” (ECB p1659).  Bromiley says, “The provisional disarming of demonic powers will issue in their complete destruction at the return of Christ” for its use in 2Th 2:8. The man of lawless had been granted authority for forty two months.  That authority culminated at the midpoint abomination.  Immediately afterward, “Who is like God” arises and the Two Witnesses arrive.  By their very nature being unable to be harmed, they upset the previously uncontested rule of the beast of a man.  The first thing that can be suggested by anaireō is that previous authority is violently taken away, especially when the Two Witnesses can consume any person who comes up against them.  The verb anaireō cannot be used in its normal figurative sense of being put to death, slain, killed, or murdered because the anti-Christ is not killed on the earth.  Whether the first instance of Christ's coming on the Day of the Lord in a Pre-Wrath eschatology or at the last day of the one ‘seven’ at Armageddon even in a classical Post-Trib eschatology; Jesus does not kill the anti-Christ on earth.  This fact of interpretation stands upon Revelation 19:20 where the beast of a man is captured alive, and thrown while still alive into the Lake of Fire along with the false    To use anaireō in its nominal sense, Jesus would ‘make an end’ of the anti-Christ which suggests a process.  Overthrowing him from his previous authority, removing his “power,” would be first part of the process which would come with the Two Witnesses who defy the anti-Christ; he is powerless over them.  As the end-times proceed under a Pre-Wrath eschatological framework, making an end is a process whereby God’s Wrath reduces the anti-Christ’s world to a shadow of its former self.  Final victory is Pyrrhic; he conquers the Kings of the South and East only to find himself facing the Lord of Hosts which ends with his capture. Finally then, the anti-Christ is destroyed utterly, and there are many ways to do that. and as some might argue: in stages as well.  He is utterly destroyed on the earth when defeated, and then again for all eternity, in Hell.  He is judged just as is determined in Revelation 11:18, “The time has come for…destroying those who destroy the earth.”  He is judged before God and thrown into the Lake of Fire. 2nd Thessalonians 2:8 describes a sequence-of-events: The man of lawlessness is revealed. Jesus will make an end of him. He is utterly destroyed. Taken by itself, 2Th 2:8 could be read as happening very quickly.  However, with additional revelation of God’s Wrath, which Paul does not address other than to assure the Church it does not face it, the Bible expressly states that it takes time; in the case of the first Woe, it takes five months alone.  Other desolations which God has decreed may take longer as will be suggested later so that the entire remaining period of the second half of the one ‘seven’ will go until the end is poured out upon the desolator.
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