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Court To Hear Case Against "Pledge Of Allegiance"

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Massachusetts'Supreme Judicial Court


The family, who are secular humanists, claim that the phrase "under God" in the pledge is a violation of the state's constitutional ban on religious discrimination.


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Massachusetts has a history of leading the vanguard in discrimination cases. In 2003, the same court ruled that it was discriminatory, and therefore unconstitutional, to prohibit gay marriage, becoming the first state to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

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When Nations Leave The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob Out Of Their Government

The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries. Psalms 110:5-6

God Will Leave His Judgement

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 28:31-34

At Their Feet

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

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How come these people are still spending the money we use, it has "In God We Trust" printed on it.

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How come these people are still spending the money we use, it has "In God We Trust" printed on it.

Yes, but In God We Trust means different things to different people. Catchy phrase though.

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How come these people are still spending the money we use, it has "In God We Trust" printed on it.

Yes, but In God We Trust means different things to different people. Catchy phrase though.

Yes...they love the American money.

They will probably want to remove .." In God We Trust" off of the money.

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They have been fighting that battle for years now. This is old news, though it is still raging.

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Old news yes ...its still going on.
Now it is going to court , this is news about less, than 2 weeks ago. ... But, i think when it goes to court they will more than likely win, in Massachusetts.
Just like the gay rights did.

The U.S. may as well revise the whole Constitution.

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we already are and did we voted for them who do just that

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we already are and did we voted for them who do just that

:) not me... !

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neither did i but really romney winning or loosing wouldnt change this type of stuff

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you just may be right on that one too.... Jason.

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maybe they use debit cards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see "In God we trust" taken off the money soon, maybe when it switches over to a new currency for the NWO.

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  • Acts 4:25 Who by the mouth of your servant David have said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?"
  • If the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional, then so is the republic of which we have pledged allegiance to. So much for all that indivisible nonsense.


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The first pledge was written in 1892.

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


"Under God" wasn't added until 1954.





This is a non-issue.

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As it stands, I know atheists who take a black marker and mark out; "In God We Trust" , on every bill in their wallet or purse. I know Pagan's who add; 'dess" after "God" so as to say; In Goddess we trust.



How petty.

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Petty or simply their making a civil statement reiterating separation of church and State? Since this is not a Theocratic dictatorship but a Democratic Republic, it's their way of speaking freely.

It's all a matter of opinion and practice I guess.

There is no separation of church and state, at least not the way that phrase has been stood on its head in our modern society.

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Petty or simply their making a civil statement reiterating separation of church and State? Since this is not a Theocratic dictatorship but a Democratic Republic, it's their way of speaking freely.

It's all a matter of opinion and practice I guess.


Would that work in reverse? Could Christians write "Jesus is my Savior" or "In God I trust" if there was NO phrase on the money?

hmmmmmmmm....... :29: (rhetorical...not seriously asking)


Anyway, I think you have to have alot of resentment going on to do those things...and yes, how petty.

I didn't know that phrase was not added till way later...then again, I'm not American

It's slow....somebody start a good thread.....so I can read it ;)

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Massachusetts'Supreme Judicial Court


The family, who are secular humanists, claim that the phrase "under God" in the pledge is a violation of the state's constitutional ban on religious discrimination.


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Massachusetts has a history of leading the vanguard in discrimination cases. In 2003, the same court ruled that it was discriminatory, and therefore unconstitutional, to prohibit gay marriage, becoming the first state to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.


Personally I think the pledge of allegiance should be abandoned altogether. It didn't exist prior to 1942 and the people of this country got along quite well without it prior to that time. Pictures of the Bellamy salute, once required of school children illustrate the pledges true purpose - to exact the tribute of a personal vow to a fascist state.

Today the pledge is an empty gesture. It's a promise made to the flag of a nation that is no longer our own. When you're in debt, the bank owns your car, your home and your nation. The note holder decides the ultimate dispossession of the object of indebtedness, not the user of it. When the financial cartel, special interest groups, the defense contractors, the military and corrupt elected officials make decisions contrary to the will of the people the nation is not in our hands.

As for me, I no longer salute the flag. It isn't mine and if you're truthful with yourself, it doesn't belong to you either.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...




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