Well hi and no I did not know you were a 7th day Adventist...but I have known at least one other...in person I was off for awhile, so I prob missed the intros and I'm not familiar with yr publications
I. It's ok if you disagree with my premise. I believe God permits/allows sin to continue to exist because when we wake up and look into a mirror guess what we're looking at? A sinner and hopefully saved by grace. For a bible texts just consider Romans 3:23 and then look at Habakkuk 1:13 you can see that even though sin exists and God does not look at them because he is too holy sin still goes on. Read the Creation account in Gen. 1 up until the fall in Gen. 3. Not sure if you want a "thus saith the Lord I wilt permiteth sin" but that's the best I can do for now.
I understand what you are saying here, but that is not the whole picture. I absolutely agree that we are all sinners and capable of sinning, but, and if you can kind of compartmentalize this one, the Bible
does not leave us there at salvation. What do we do with verses that refer to believes as saints rather than sinners?
The word translated “saint” in the New Testament, hagios, means literally “sacred, physically pure; morally blameless or religious; ceremonially consecrated; a holy one.” In the context of New Testament passages, saints are those who belong to the body of Christ, saved by grace through faith . In other words, “saint” is another word for a Christian, a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
I'm not a Greek scholar by any means, but in reference to the word saint, it is used 229 times in the Greek NT and 60 times in KJV. This word does not refer to people who have died and gone to
be with the Lord, but to those alive and kicking. Paul, in addressing his letters to the various churches and believers, used the word saint to describe the recipients of his letters as follows:
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia: II Cor 1:1
There are dozens more examples, most being found at the beginning of the NT epistles...Romans, Colossians, Ephesians and so on.
He does not write to sinners who are saved by grace....but develops the concept both in his salutation and in the contents of his letters, that we are saints...no longer sinners, for example:
To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ--their Lord and ours:
I Corinthians 6:11
We need to study the NT, with a good foundation in the OT, to understatnd that God does not permit sin. Sin exists and God did not create it nor does he permit it. Sin, cannot enter His presence.
Jesus had to die for our sins so that we can come into God's presence as we are cleansed and sanctified by his blood. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Hebrews 10:4
You did mention Romans, but study Hebrews as well to understand that we have the righteousness of Christ and that is how God views us. We would never be able to approach Him if He simply
tolerated, winked at or permitted sin. Sin causes separation from God.
Does that mean we are sinless or that we never sin again? No.
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I John 1:7-9
I think point 1 is enough for now regarding a discussion