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@Dennis1209 @seeking the lost @AnOrangeCat @AdHoc  I've started a new thread here on this topic, so as not to derail this one completely:   

On another thread, a few people seemed interested in talking again about the Partial Rapture Theory.  (I say again, because we did a thread on this about 1.5 years ago that got to over 90 pages before George closed it!) Here's a few of the comments on that other (current) thread: Below posted by me (as a response to @AnOrangeCat:  We had quite the thread going on this over a year ago (actually  may have been a couple threads) - I can see if I find them if you'd like. But the basics are this: many argue incessantly for either pre or post trib rapture, and some also for mid trib.  I subscribe to the notion that there are some merits for all these in scripture, therefore multiple, partial raptures.  There have been God's people who have been caught away at various points, so I don't understand why Christians insist on dogmatically staking claim to just one rapture at the end. To me, we are all saved equally, and He puts His Spirit of life into us to make us children.  Therefore we are all on equal footing in that regards - saved by grace period.  But then there is the matter of how we grow and what we do with this grace and life we've been given.  The Bema Seat judgement will address this and differentiate between God's children.  So why should the rapture idea be any different, that is, ones taken up according to how well they have allowed the seed of life in them to grow? Much more could be said, but after some digging I found this thread I started in December 2022.  (FYI - there were over 90 pages to this thread and it was closed by George, but if you read a few of the beginning pages I think you'll get the idea.) Below posted by me responding to @Dennis1209   I don't know much about what the anti-Nicene church fathers held regarding the rapture(s) . . . and I would defer to @AdHoc regarding any teachings from back then about multiple/partial reapings.   And even if no church father source for the idea comes from that period, I would maintain that this, in and of itself, certainly does not negate the idea. I do agree that much of the partial rapture teaching did get promulgated by 19th century authors.  Here's something from Wikipedia in an article on "Rapture" subsection "Partial pre-tribulation premillennialism":  As stated by Ira David (a proponent of this view): “The saints will be raptured  in groups during the tribulation as they are prepared to go.”[98] Some notable proponents of this theory are G. H. Lang, Robert Chapman, G. H. Pember, Robert Govett, D. M. Panton, Watchman Nee, Ira E. David, J. A. Seiss, Hudson Taylor, Anthony Norris Groves, John Wilkinson, G. Campbell Morgan, Otto Stockmayer and Rev. J. W. (Chip) White Jr.  Found here  - an interesting read on the whole matter of the rapture:                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture  I am familiar with a number of these authors and many were in the 19th century. If anyone is interested, here is a website I found today that promotes Partial Rapture Theory (PRT): https://www.bible-prophecy.co/partial-rapture-theory/  I have just started to look through it, so I can't vouch for its veracity.  UPDATE:  Just realized this website is by an author whose book I have on my shelf:  "The Partial Rapture and the Left Behind Church" by Paul Shoenbarger Below posted by @Dennis1209  To coin an old secular adage, “The closer to the bone, the sweeter the meat.” The closer we get to the source material and references, the more detail and accuracy. My point is: 1 Thes. 4: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore lcomfort one another with these words. [emphasis mine] On scripture: I am not dogmatic, but I see nowhere in scripture that teaches a partial rapture. How could we comfort one another knowing some of our beloved brethren and loved ones missed the church age (age of Grace) Rapture and Resurrection? It seems the pronoun WE is all-encompassing and all-inclusive. I mentioned the early so-called church fathers. Polycarp was a personal friend and disciple of John the Revelator, studying under John, not to mention Irenaeus under Polycarp and all the other so-called Ante-Nicene fathers. None of them knew what is spouted today as partial raptures. Short of reverifying, I do not recall any Reformation leaders of the sixteenth century mentioning partial raptures. This doctrinal introduction is a product of the 19th century, which is very late in Biblical terms. It is not to say there will only be one rapture and one glorification. I believe those Tribulation martyrs (and ourselves) will return with Christ at His 2nd coming, then having their glorified bodies. And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. (Revelation 6:11) The final resurrection is the Great White Throne judgment, where those not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life are bodily resurrected, condemned, and join the Antichrist and False Prophet in the Lake of Fire. I also would like @AdHoc to chime in. I consistently learn from you both, getting alternate views and thoughts.

God's voice is The Word, but also the Holy Spirit, but being as God is a Spirit He speaks to us in the Spirit, the problem is most people do not understand how to TUNE it in. For starters, prayer, and (very important) WAITING ON THE Lord as praying, there comes a point where you just sit still and WAIT upon the habitation of the Lord. The Lord inhabits the Prayers of His people. Expect God to show up and commune with you and He will but if you do nit have time to WAIT He may not show up.   Then you will hear His small still voice clearly. Atheists can never understand this concept, if he an atheist "Smoker" I can usually demonstrate this in basic terms. I simply ask them, when you want a cigarette do you (lets say his name is Mike) say Mike, take out a Cig, and light it up or do you just "TAKE OUT THE CIG.......and light it up?" And they say, well, of course I just take it out and light it up. So, I am like your spirit sent that message unto your brain, YOUR WILL was to smoke. God as a Spirit talks unto you in the same manner, He is not a human nor an Angel with a body, He is a Spirit. Nothing God has ever been or is now has ever changed, He is constant in all of His ways. So, we can only hear by learning to tune Him in.  IF.........we listen to a Talk Show in our drive to work, and Rock Music on our drive in from  work, and is we watch Sports or Movies on Nights and Weekends, and we got to a Bar or a Movie, or Bowling, and spend ONE HOUR a week with God on Sunday, who are we going to hear in our spirit? Satan will be whispering unto us 24/7/365 pretty much. 

Agreed.  unknown sin could be revealed, by The Lord, as sin later on.  The more I learn, the more I know I need to learn. "Now may The God of peace sanctify [us] entirely..."

Here is why I don't think it was God who gave you strength to throw these people off, God knows they did nothing wrong unto you, they had you in there to test you then take you to a mental health type place, not to harm you, and you might harm others (in their mind IF you had a mental problem). So, at that point in time they have to restrain you, and are not trying to harm you at all.  Now, here comes the gist of the matter. You said you did drugs, well Remember Rodney King he was on Cocaine and threw off many cops. You need said, was you on drugs that night? If so, men become awful strong on certain drugs, and even though we "BELIVE God exists" that does not mean we are of God per se. So, if doing drugs, we are probably not walking with God. Pharmika (Drugs) was a part of old religions and the serving of false gods, Demons use the drugs to take you over. I know, at like 19 I took like 20-25 Valium one night while drinking, did not seem to do anything so I kept popping, well I sat on this guys hood, he was like get of my car dude, I could NO MOVE.......Seriously, they came and set me on the porch, then I could move again and sat right back on his car (LOL) then as they said something else I ran into the woods, and git arrested that night, I should have died, but of course God had a plan for my life a couple of years later. So, on drugs Satan and Demons can indeed have a sway over us, so were you doing drugs that night? If so, then there is you "SUPER POWERS ANSWERS" Gid answers no such prayer IMHO, to become violent to people trying to help you. ALSO..........that would also e an answer to was the "COP TRYING TO CHOKE YOU" of course he was in your mind, IF you were on drugs. No one can answer your question until you relay IF you were on drugs that day. It really has a bearing on  what went down.