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    • Can you explain how this prophetic message of which the angel's says, the "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy," and has the primary focus on the coming of "Messiah the Prince," who Himself prophesied of the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem, suddenly abruptly changes to an antichrist figure in the verse 27? What is the overspreading of abominations was the crucifying Christ afresh with the Jews rejection of Jesus Christ and continuing to sacrifice the type and shadow in rejection for the fulfillment? Is not that what we read in Hebrews, the weakness of the law, the worthlessness of the blood of animals, and how "he says, 'A new covenant, He has made the first old. so that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away?' " Concerning Matthew 24:15, I submit the following for consideration -   Adam Clarke’s Commentary: Verse 15.   The abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel] This abomination of desolation, St. Luke, (Lu 21:20,21,) refers to the Roman army; and this abomination standing in the holy place is the Roman army besieging Jerusalem; this, our Lord says, is what was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, in the ninth and eleventh chapters of his prophecy; and so let every one who reads these prophecies understand them; and in reference to this very event they are understood by the rabbins.  The Roman army is called an abomination, for its ensigns and images, which were so to the Jews.  Josephus says, (War, b. vi. chap. 6,) the *Romans brought their ensigns into the temple, and placed them over against the eastern gate, and sacrificed to them there.  The Roman army is therefore fitly called the abomination, and the abomination which maketh desolate, as it was to desolate and lay waste Jerusalem; and this army besieging Jerusalem is called by St. Mark, Mr 13:14, standing where it ought not, that is, as in the text here, the holy place; as not only the city, but a considerable compass of ground about it, was deemed holy, and consequently no profane persons should stand on it. *Havercamp’s note here: “This (says he) is a remarkable place; and Tertullian truly says in his Apologetic, ch. 16. p. 162, that the entire religion of the Roman camp almost consisted in worshipping the ensigns, in swearing by the ensigns, and in preferring the ensigns before all the [other] gods.” Josephus – Wars Book 5 -Chap.1  – para. 1 – THE SEDITIONS AT JERUSALEM AND WHAT TERRIBLE MISERIES AFFLICTED THE CITY BY THEIR MEANS; Now as to the attack the zealots made upon the people, and which I esteem the beginning of the city’s destruction, it hath been already explained after an accurate manner; as also whence it arose, and to how great a mischief it was increased. But for the present sedition, one should not mistake if he called it a sedition begotten by another sedition, and to be like a wild beast grown mad, which, for want of food from abroad, fell now upon eating its own flesh. para. 3 – . . . slew moreover many of the priests, as they were about their sacred ministrations. For notwithstanding these men were mad with all sorts of impiety, yet did they still admit those that desired to offer their sacrifices, although they took care to search the people of their own country beforehand, and both suspected and watched them; while they were not so much afraid of strangers, who, although they had gotten leave of them, how cruel soever they were, to come into that court, were yet often destroyed by this sedition; for those darts that were thrown by the engines came with that force, that they went over all the buildings, and reached as far as the altar, and the temple itself, and fell upon the priests, and those that were about the sacred offices; insomuch that many persons who came thither with great zeal from the ends of the earth, to offer sacrifices at this celebrated place, which was esteemed holy by all mankind, fell down before their own sacrifices themselves, and sprinkled that altar which was venerable among all men, both Greeks and Barbarians, with their own blood; till the dead bodies of strangers were mingled together with those of their own country, and those of profane persons with those of the priests, and the blood of all sorts of dead carcasses stood in lakes in the holy courts themselves. And now, “O must wretched city, what misery so great as this didst thou suffer from the Romans, when they came to purify thee from thy intestine hatred! ‘For thou couldst be no longer a place fit for God, nor couldst thou long continue in being, after thou hadst been a sepulcher for the bodies of thy own people, and hadst made the holy house itself a burying-place in this civil war of thine. Yet mayst thou again grow better, if perchance thou wilt hereafter appease the anger of that God who is the author of thy destruction.” But I must restrain myself from these passions by the rules of history, since this is not a proper time for domestical lamentations, but for historical narrations; I therefore return to the operations that follow in this sedition. Cross references: Luke 13:1 –  There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose you that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except you repent, you shall all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think you that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  Josephus – Wars Book 5 -Chap.1  – para. 5 They agreed in nothing but this, to kill those that were innocent. The noise also of those that were fighting was incessant, both by day and by night; but the lamentations of those that mourned exceeded the other; nor was there ever any occasion for them to leave off their lamentations, because their calamities came perpetually one upon another, although the deep consternation they were in prevented their outward wailing; but being constrained by their fear to conceal their inward passions, they were inwardly tormented, without daring to open their lips in groans. Nor was any regard paid to those that were still alive, by their relations; nor was there any care taken of burial for those that were dead; the occasion of both which was this, that every one despaired of himself; for those that were not among the seditious had no great desires of any thing, as expecting for certain that they should very soon be destroyed; but for the seditious themselves, they fought against each other, while they trod upon the dead bodies as they lay heaped one upon another, and taking up a mad rage from those dead bodies that were under their feet, became the fiercer thereupon. They, moreover, were still inventing somewhat or other that was pernicious against themselves; and when they had resolved upon any thing, they executed it without mercy, and omitted no method of torment or of barbarity. Josephus – Wars Book 6 -Chap.2  – para. 1 – HOW TITUS . . . PERSUADED JOSEPHUS TO EXHORT THE JEWS AGAIN [TO A SURRENDER]. And WHO IS THERE THAT DOES NOT KNOW what the writings of the ancient prophets contain in them, – and particularly that oracle which is just now going to be fulfilled upon this miserable city? For they foretold that this city should be then taken when somebody shall begin the slaughter of his own countrymen. And are not both the city and the entire temple now full of the dead bodies of your countrymen? It is God, therefore, it is God himself who is bringing on this fire, to purge that city and temple by means of the Romans,  and is going to pluck up this city, which is full of your pollutions.”
    • Just for the record, I believe “the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary” is Titus Caesar, Vespasian’s son who completed the siege on Jerusalem resulting in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 a.d. The verse in Daniel 7:25 is written in Aramaic, and not Hebrew, for from Daniel 2:4 to the of chapter 7 is all written in Aramaic. This was possibly done so and written for Nebuchadnezzar, to whom God had given the dream of and image and also humbled with his seven years chastisement, for chapter 8 begins under the reign of his grandson Belshazzar.  That said, and for what it worth, the phrase in 7:25, “And he… shall wear out <bel-aw'> the saints of the Most High” uses the word noted and so translated only once in scripture. It is stated in an interlinear that word <bel-aw'> corresponds to the Hebrew word #1086 (but used only in a mental sense) and means “to afflict:--i.e. wear out.” In Hebrew, the word <balah> means “to fail; by implication to wear out, or decay (causatively, consume, spend):--consume, enjoy long, become (make, wax) old, spend, waste.”  The implication is not so much as so many commentators interpret it, as great slaughter, but more of them and their gospel being reduced (seduced) to a state of being unprofitable. I personally feel this is a verse in a chapter from which the Apostle Paul would have taught the saints in his day of how Rome was  going  to fall from its height of power into smaller fractions, and in doing so give way for the rise of the apostacy of the papacy who would leaven the gospel and in doing so render many professing Christ to become unprofitable to the furtherance of the Kingdom. But... this is a departure from the main topic of what is the scriptural foundation of the seven-year tribulation theology….
    • I agree. In the interest of objectivity, it is important that we honestly acknowledge Israel's shortcomings. But it is also important that we honestly consider the broader context of the conflict. The secular mainstream paints the issue as overwhelmingly Israel's fault. Israel is their big, bad oppressor that is victimizing the poor innocent "Palestinian" civilians. That narrative is the opposite of what is demonstrably true.  Therefore, in the context of such a one-sided, mainstream, deceitful narrative, we should be cautious when pointing out Israel's flaws - that we don't give the false impression of equivalent accountability.  
    • Lol! My prediction is that the spiritually blinded world will continue to align itself against Israel - and then God will ultimately intervene on Israel's behalf.  
    • Thanks for the share, but Ken Peter's dream falls short of what I am looking for and lacks the weight of scripture.
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