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Have I truly repented or am I willfully sinning?

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I've been feeling very guilty of a sin I am now dealing with. I cheated in some of my college classes throughout my first few semesters of college and the Holy Spirit convicted me. I asked Christ for forgiveness many times and I still felt guilty. Last week, I went down to the main office and confessed my cheating to one of the professors who is the main guy of my major department. I would assume he would be the guy to talk in case I ever got caught. He was impressed that I had the guts to risk jeopardizing my education for doing the right thing. I also mentioned my christian faith. He understood and didn't do anything which I was surprised by and plainly doesn't want me to do it again. Surprisingly, he acted like it was no big deal. He seemed liked one of those guys who would take it seriously. I felt great after, but now, the problem is, the guilt came back. I don't know why? Is there something I still need to do? I started telling my other professors about my cheating and so far, most of them didn't really do anything about my grade, one of them even laughed! Neither yelled or threatened to kick me out or anything? Maybe they didn't want to deal with it because it was towards the end of the semester? Are they now sinning because of my sin of cheating for not doing anything? It would be different if I got caught but, I confessed anyways. I can't remember all the classes that I cheated in or not. The cheating i did was looking at other's people's papers during tests but, not the whole test. Again, it still doesn't make it right. I accept Christ as my savior during the middle of my college so I cheated before I came to Christ. I started doing it this semester but, I confessed to all my professors about it and they really didn't do anything. There were a few I didn't have the chance to speak to. Don't get me wrong, I did work hard in college. There are just times where I did things I shouldn't have and fell into temptation and am now repenting. I already applied for graduation and might transfer to a different school. I feel like I deserve to be punished. Am I overly thinking this? I'm sure I did it in high school which I can barely remember anymore. Am I doing works because they are filthy rags and I should look towards the cross of Jesus Christ?

One of the people that answered this question said this..... 

"You are committing willful sin, cheating, lying, stealing, having someone else lie for you and worst of all, praying to God, you are not a doctor or a heart specialist. You should stand up, and you did not earn your degree. You are well aware of it, and you want the Christians to feel sorry for you and sing Kumbaya, you need to not graduate. It is a lie. You have continued in this sin, from high school. I do not feel your sorrow. I hear your excuses and you wanting to get validated, to ease your conscience. When you go for a job interview, the lies will continue. Where does it end. True Repentance, is not only confession of sin, but restoration of the stolen property. In this case, your diploma is a lie and your spouse to be, your parents and yourself is still being manipulated. Just recently, we have had cases, where people have done the same exact thing, and 30 years later, other people have suffered for this seemingly simple, manipulation. I pray for you. it is not the end of the world. But you need to do the right thing. Your mind would be freed, by not accepting that paper. God is present in all these actions, and Christ is being shamed. Free yourself, by speaking the truth. Your whole life will be made much better, and you will have a testimony, for other kids. Be a radical for Christ. The fact that the Holy Spirit is convicting you and you did not remedy the situation, is the reason for your guilty conscience and lack lustre feeling. A Christian always acts on Conviction from the Holy Spirit, or else he will not continue to dwell in a willfull sinning and not repenting fully. Then you would be left up to the error of you ways and the consequences of your actions. What does it profit one, to gain the whole world and their soul is not right with Almighty God. One lie continues from High School then college. I hope you see the pattern here. It is not too late to make things right. Your choice." 

 
His comment made me feel scared. I know what I did was wrong and I obviously don't feel proud of it at all! Am I willfully sinning for taking the degree after these past two years and a half? If I apply for a future job or transfer to a new college, am I willfully sinning and lying based on my transcript? Is God telling me not to accept the degree? Do I go to the Dean? Do I dropout after all that work I did and loans? Is God giving me a 2nd chance for confessing? I told my parents and they are freaking out at me! They just want me to graduate and they didn't seem to care that I cheated which scares me too about their integrity. I also read too that being in debt is a sin. My parents told me they will still pay even if I don't graduate but, I feel like being in debt is a sin too. God wants us to be righteous and good, even if it means suffering for what is right. BUT YET, Jesus died on the cross and God says He will forget our sins once we confess to Him. But wouldn't the possession of the degree be like a thief that claims repentance, but keeps the stolen property anyways? Even if I told the professors, aren't they themselves lying because of what I did for putting in a false grade? Have I truly repented for confessing or not?
 
(I'm not in medical, business etc. I take media arts and communications)

Edited by christofarmor, 21 December 2013 - 05:57 PM.


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It's so easy.  Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life.  No man comes to the Father but through Me.  When we go to God admit to Him we are a sinner, and ask to be forgiven of those sins, He forgives us.  Then thank  Him for loving us so much He sent His only Son to save us, and thank Him for dying on the cross for us.  Ask Jesus into your heart to be your savior.  Repent that means to turn around and go into the other direction, the direction God wants you to go into.  Jesus comes into your heart and makes you a new creation.  Thank Him for that.  It's done.  Get into the word and find a good gospel, Bible believing church and start learning to trust the Lord with all your life.  I would like to ask you to come in to our chat room where you can talk one on one with  believers who can encourage you.  Welcome to Worthy.



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I've been feeling very guilty of a sin I am now dealing with....

 

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To repent is to change your mind about the sin and avoid willfully engaging in it in the future.  Jesus HAS already forgave you.  It isn't Jesus forgave you now you mustbeat yourself with a whip or recite 10 Our Fathers.  Jesus work is a complete one and also is his forgiveness.

 

You tried to rectify the situation and confessed your sins and was willing to take a punishment.  The professors forgave you and saw no need for further recourse.  Restoration was attempted but there isn't a need for you to be punished.  Like Jesus, your professors seem to have forgave you without any strings attached.  It's hard for us as humans to accept a free gift of forgiveness- maybe this was a life lesson a college course can't teach.  God forgave you, the professors forgave, now forgive yourself.  Learning to forgive yourself can be the hardest of all.

 

Your professors probably admired your integrity and it sounds like your cheating was fairly minimal.  If your going to be a brain surgeon and don't know how to do brain surgery then there might be a problem.  That's an extreme example and I'm sure your professors would have treated this much differently if it were that important.  I'm sure your profs walked away thinking- those Christian's sure are honest (or nuts... it's usually nuts. but that is ok.)...  Sounds like a good witness for Christ to me- most anyone else would have taken the degree and ran.

 

Thank God for your forgiveness and live a life of forgiveness.



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I've been feeling very guilty of a sin I am now dealing with. I cheated in some of my college classes throughout my first few semesters of college and the Holy Spirit convicted me. I asked Christ for forgiveness many times and I still felt guilty. Last week, I went down to the main office and confessed my cheating to one of the professors who is the main guy of my major department. I would assume he would be the guy to talk in case I ever got caught. He was impressed that I had the guts to risk jeopardizing my education for doing the right thing. I also mentioned my christian faith. He understood and didn't do anything which I was surprised by and plainly doesn't want me to do it again. Surprisingly, he acted like it was no big deal. He seemed liked one of those guys who would take it seriously. I felt great after, but now, the problem is, the guilt came back. I don't know why? Is there something I still need to do? I started telling my other professors about my cheating and so far, most of them didn't really do anything about my grade, one of them even laughed! Neither yelled or threatened to kick me out or anything? Maybe they didn't want to deal with it because it was towards the end of the semester? Are they now sinning because of my sin of cheating for not doing anything? It would be different if I got caught but, I confessed anyways. I can't remember all the classes that I cheated in or not. The cheating i did was looking at other's people's papers during tests but, not the whole test. Again, it still doesn't make it right. I accept Christ as my savior during the middle of my college so I cheated before I came to Christ. I started doing it this semester but, I confessed to all my professors about it and they really didn't do anything. There were a few I didn't have the chance to speak to. Don't get me wrong, I did work hard in college. There are just times where I did things I shouldn't have and fell into temptation and am now repenting. I already applied for graduation and might transfer to a different school. I feel like I deserve to be punished. Am I overly thinking this? I'm sure I did it in high school which I can barely remember anymore. Am I doing works because they are filthy rags and I should look towards the cross of Jesus Christ?

One of the people that answered this question said this..... 

"You are committing willful sin, cheating, lying, stealing, having someone else lie for you and worst of all, praying to God, you are not a doctor or a heart specialist. You should stand up, and you did not earn your degree. You are well aware of it, and you want the Christians to feel sorry for you and sing Kumbaya, you need to not graduate. It is a lie. You have continued in this sin, from high school. I do not feel your sorrow. I hear your excuses and you wanting to get validated, to ease your conscience. When you go for a job interview, the lies will continue. Where does it end. True Repentance, is not only confession of sin, but restoration of the stolen property. In this case, your diploma is a lie and your spouse to be, your parents and yourself is still being manipulated. Just recently, we have had cases, where people have done the same exact thing, and 30 years later, other people have suffered for this seemingly simple, manipulation. I pray for you. it is not the end of the world. But you need to do the right thing. Your mind would be freed, by not accepting that paper. God is present in all these actions, and Christ is being shamed. Free yourself, by speaking the truth. Your whole life will be made much better, and you will have a testimony, for other kids. Be a radical for Christ. The fact that the Holy Spirit is convicting you and you did not remedy the situation, is the reason for your guilty conscience and lack lustre feeling. A Christian always acts on Conviction from the Holy Spirit, or else he will not continue to dwell in a willfull sinning and not repenting fully. Then you would be left up to the error of you ways and the consequences of your actions. What does it profit one, to gain the whole world and their soul is not right with Almighty God. One lie continues from High School then college. I hope you see the pattern here. It is not too late to make things right. Your choice." 

 
His comment made me feel scared. I know what I did was wrong and I obviously don't feel proud of it at all! Am I willfully sinning for taking the degree after these past two years and a half? If I apply for a future job or transfer to a new college, am I willfully sinning and lying based on my transcript? Is God telling me not to accept the degree? Do I go to the Dean? Do I dropout after all that work I did and loans? Is God giving me a 2nd chance for confessing? I told my parents and they are freaking out at me! They just want me to graduate and they didn't seem to care that I cheated which scares me too about their integrity. I also read too that being in debt is a sin. My parents told me they will still pay even if I don't graduate but, I feel like being in debt is a sin too. God wants us to be righteous and good, even if it means suffering for what is right. BUT YET, Jesus died on the cross and God says He will forget our sins once we confess to Him. But wouldn't the possession of the degree be like a thief that claims repentance, but keeps the stolen property anyways? Even if I told the professors, aren't they themselves lying because of what I did for putting in a false grade? Have I truly repented for confessing or not?
 
(I'm not in medical, business etc. I take media arts and communications)

 

 

All sin is willful, therefore the best of us still willful sin every day, none of us are righteous, no,  not one.

 

But thanks be to God!

 

 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
 (Eph 2:5-6 NKJ)

 

True repentance means stop sinning. You can stop cheating, do what is right and graduate.

 

Then you aren't robbing your parents also.

 

Precious few of us were able to repay all we stole from, or undo all the injury we caused, when we begged God for forgiveness, and believed unto salvation. That's life, the past can't be undone.

 

For example, the Tax Collector:

 

 7 But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, "He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner."
 8 Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold."
 9 And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham;
 10 "for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." (Luk 19:7-10 NKJ)

 

 

Without doubt some never came to him to be repaid. That meant these bothered his conscience, but there was nothing more that could be done.

 

In a way your degree is analogous, while some of it was obtained wrongly, you can't change that. You can resolve to sin no more, and apply yourself to do what is right in God's eyes hence forth.

 

So get your degree honestly. Don't Rob your parents.

 

You can't change the past, only the future.

 

And if you can't get your degree honestly, then don't get it.

 

Start your own business. Lots of college drop outs become millionaires.


Edited by Alfred Persson, 04 January 2014 - 11:02 PM.





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