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You think you know what teachers do. Right? Wrong.

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You think you know what teachers do. Right? Wrong.

    By Valerie Strauss

    February 22 at 11:30 am

 

You went to school so you think you know what teachers do, right? You are wrong. Here’s a piece explaining all of this from Sarah Blaine, a mom, former teacher and full-time practicing attorney in New Jersey who writes at her parentingthecore blog, where this first appeared.

 

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Teaching as a profession has no mystery. It has no mystique. It has no respect.

 

We were students, and therefore we know teachers. We denigrate teachers. We criticize teachers. We can do better than teachers. After all: We do. They teach.

 

We are wrong.

 

We need to honor teachers. We need to respect teachers. We need to listen to teachers. We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams.

 

Most of all, we need to stop thinking that we know anything about teaching merely by virtue of having once been students.

 

We don’t know.

 

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The problem with teaching as a profession is that every single adult citizen of this country thinks that they know what teachers do. And they don’t. So they prescribe solutions, and they develop public policy, and they editorialize, and they politicize. And they don’t listen to those who do know. Those who could teach. The teachers.

 

Read the meat of the argument here

 

 

(Please read the actual explanations given before commenting counter-arguments, please.)



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"The problem with teaching as a profession is that every single adult citizen of this country thinks that they know what teachers do."

 

Is that arrogant?  Surely ye are the people, & wisdom shall die with you!



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My wife was a teacher for 20+ years.....   my sister was a teacher for 35+ years....   my brother in law was a teacher for aobut 30 years and my sister in law taught for about 5 years....   I have 9 close cousins that are teachers, and most of my wife's friends are teachers......    there is no way under the sun that I would be a teacher....

 

I spent nearly 40 years working for Xerox dealing with high stress situations and a hoard of angry people for they couldn't get thier work done.........    but I never came home in tears......     and I never wanted to bring one of my printers home because it was being abused....   

 

 

There are as many husbands and wives as there are teachers......   so I can tell you that  "Some of us Know".

 

 

However....   I never had one of my printers come up, give me a hug and say I love you...    I never had one of them come up to me in tears and ask me to pray for it's mother who was dying......

 

 

So from someone on the inside who has patiently watched and helped as much as possible I can tell you without a doubt that teachers are blessed by God more than anyone I know.......   for they are doing what God told us to do concerning the little ones......   and there must be a special place in heaven for them when we all get there.



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"The problem with teaching as a profession is that every single adult citizen of this country thinks that they know what teachers do."

 

Is that arrogant?  Surely ye are the people, & wisdom shall die with you!

 

Did you read the article?

 

The author is a lawyer who failed started out, and failed, as a teacher.



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Quote: "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams."

 

Sounds like Marxist rubbish to me. It's just the excuse progressives need to dumb down the kids. "Hey, it's not about passing exams - everyone's a winner."

The trouble is teachers are not been judged by how well their pupils do anymore. Education is not about education anymore, it's about political propaganda.

 

I really don't know what teachers really do and I don't need to. I don't know what doctors do either, but if I met a failed doctor who told me to 'stop reducing doctors to arbitrary measurements of patient care on so-called objective survival results', I'd run a mile.

I expect doctors to heal patients (or at least do the best they can) and I expect teachers to teach kids to pass exams.



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Amen~!



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School has left the academic field and stepped into the social experimental field a long time ago. Teachers are less respected on the streets than drug dealers, it is a feel good - get rich quick society. The reflection of what is going on in the schools can be seen in the kids, despite everything the teachers want to do or how hard they try.

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Quote: "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams."

 

Sounds like Marxist rubbish to me. It's just the excuse progressives need to dumb down the kids. "Hey, it's not about passing exams - everyone's a winner."

The trouble is teachers are not been judged by how well their pupils do anymore. Education is not about education anymore, it's about political propaganda.

 

Actually, it is the political propaganda that has been dumbing down education.

 

"Teaching to the exam" has been hindering many teachers from truly teaching their students.

 

I can give many rants on the problems with our education system. The teacher isn't the problem. Yet all programs to "improve" teaching put the problem squarely on the shoulders of the teacher, and many are dying under that weight.



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Quote: "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams."

 

Sounds like Marxist rubbish to me. It's just the excuse progressives need to dumb down the kids. "Hey, it's not about passing exams - everyone's a winner."

The trouble is teachers are not been judged by how well their pupils do anymore. Education is not about education anymore, it's about political propaganda.

 

Actually, it is the political propaganda that has been dumbing down education.

 

"Teaching to the exam" has been hindering many teachers from truly teaching their students.

 

I can give many rants on the problems with our education system. The teacher isn't the problem. Yet all programs to "improve" teaching put the problem squarely on the shoulders of the teacher, and many are dying under that weight.

 

 

You're right - the teacher is not the problem. I'm not blaming the teacher and I realise that it is a difficult job. The problem is the view that education is not about achievement anymore, it's about an all-inclusive feel good system where the standards are moulded around the pupil instead of the pupil being raised to the standards. Great nations are already being reduced to mediocrity by such nonsense.

I'm sorry, but the line "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams." just sums it all up.



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Quote: "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams."

 

Sounds like Marxist rubbish to me. It's just the excuse progressives need to dumb down the kids. "Hey, it's not about passing exams - everyone's a winner."

The trouble is teachers are not been judged by how well their pupils do anymore. Education is not about education anymore, it's about political propaganda.

 

Actually, it is the political propaganda that has been dumbing down education.

 

"Teaching to the exam" has been hindering many teachers from truly teaching their students.

 

I can give many rants on the problems with our education system. The teacher isn't the problem. Yet all programs to "improve" teaching put the problem squarely on the shoulders of the teacher, and many are dying under that weight.

 

 

That would greatly depend on the exam.....   it bothers me to hear that particular phrase in the problem of schools.

 

If you are going to teach someone something, you need to tell them what you are going to teach them, then teach them, then test them to see if they have learned what you wanted to teach them.....   to make sure they did learn..     we've been doing that for hundreds of years.    and there is nothing wrong with that.    Where the problem comes in is in the liberal education people setting the test standards to political goals instead of general knowledge.

 

You always teach to the test..........     but the test should cover what you want to teach.    



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You're right - the teacher is not the problem. I'm not blaming the teacher and I realise that it is a difficult job. The problem is the view that education is not about achievement anymore, it's about an all-inclusive feel good system where the standards are moulded around the pupil instead of the pupil being raised to the standards. Great nations are already being reduced to mediocrity by such nonsense.

I'm sorry, but the line "We need to stop reducing teachers to arbitrary measurements of student growth on so-called objective exams." just sums it all up.

That would greatly depend on the exam.....   it bothers me to hear that particular phrase in the problem of schools.

 

If you are going to teach someone something, you need to tell them what you are going to teach them, then teach them, then test them to see if they have learned what you wanted to teach them.....   to make sure they did learn..     we've been doing that for hundreds of years.    and there is nothing wrong with that.    Where the problem comes in is in the liberal education people setting the test standards to political goals instead of general knowledge.

 

You always teach to the test..........     but the test should cover what you want to teach.    

 

I think I am seeing the problem of our disagreement - we have a different understanding of what the "so-called objective exams" are.

 

OakWood, you think these exams are good things?

 

Other One is on track with my perception: "Where the problem comes in is in the liberal education people setting the test standards to political goals instead of general knowledge."

 

Most of these standards tests are geared towards students being able to rattle off various facts rather than determining their ability to rationally think, analyze, and apply their knowledge.

 

Basically, I agree with your first three sentences. But for the last sentence, I believe you should learn more about the exam standards before you tag this author's perception as being a summation of the problem.



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If you look inside Common Core you will find that they are trying their best to test our kids into being Global Socialists who have no idea of the history of this nation, or understand liberty or our form of government.     They are teaching our kids to learn but not to think which makes them easy to fill with the information to control them easily.

 

And I'm not so sure that it hasn't gone too far to stop.



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If we judge teachers by how well their students do then Jesus was a terrible teacher.

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If we judge teachers by how well their students do then Jesus was a terrible teacher.

Well Moss, if I thought that, I would not be a Christian.  By their fruits you shall know them.

Now to be sure, Chrs fail in many ways & fail often.  But where else will you find real, unselfish love?  We Chrs have this unusual and great power to love neighbor as self, & even to love our neighbors.  I would not be an accuser of the brethren -- as we know who he is.

 

And if one tries to give a comprehensive judgment over a person (read their pedigree), one runs the risk of sinful judging.  The Lord looks on the heart, which man cannot see.



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If you look inside Common Core you will find that they are trying their best to test our kids into being Global Socialists who have no idea of the history of this nation, or understand liberty or our form of government.     They are teaching our kids to learn but not to think which makes them easy to fill with the information to control them easily.

 

And I'm not so sure that it hasn't gone too far to stop.

after retiring with  24 years in the school system I agree with you on this.



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Teachers are just people. I think most do get respect, and they deserve it. There are some bad teachers out there too. The problems with the schools have more to do with unions than teachers. There are serious problems with our schools and we so need to address them. We need our children to do better in school or our country will go down hill.

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Teachers are just people. I think most do get respect, and they deserve it. There are some bad teachers out there too.

 

I agree with your above statement. Also would add what makes a good teacher is the environment they were brought up in.

 

 

The problems with the schools have more to do with unions than teachers.

 

Unions are a problem in school systems; unions allow lazy workers to have a life time job while his/her peers work very hard.

also most people in charge hold closer to secular beliefs than Christian beliefs. With that in mind the buddy system is very well protected within the school system. The ones in charge ( mostly non Christian ) work around the union rules if it is someone kin or a buddy or the buddies relative.

 

There are serious problems with our schools and we so need to address them. We need our children to do better in school or our country will go down hill.

Again I so agree with you on this. The people in charge many times; over ride the wishes of the public; seen it done more than once.






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