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    • That is true Ezra but we must keep in mind that we are generalizing the "institution"(as Hoddie puts it)......& though "in general" there are many teachings therein that are indeed 'corrupt" there are many SAved catholics & that is what this THread is really about,,,,,,creative mechanic was very interested in the various & different denominations that have come to THIS Worthy Ministry.....SAdly,everytime catholicism is mentioned we have some folks that are very unwilling to refrain from giving their opinions regardling the whole rcc,instead of LISTENING t o the individual,as the OP hoped to encourage here    Not to mention the defense of these denominiations when we should all be more interested in our PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP in Christ than in any iNstitution Institutions do not Provide SAlvation,the Grace of God does through our FAITH in the knowledge of WHO JESUS is & His finished work on the cross,,,,,,for US,individually & personally
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      I do not focus on single words so much.  I am wary of using a simple word search to link Scripture together: context-context-context.
        To that, I had to go to the Jewish Festivals and study them. The Last Trumpet is blown on Rosh ha-Shannah.  I took his reference to be indicative a "pointing" to an "Appointed Time" (which is what "Festival" means) which also is referred to in Jewish literature and study as "The Returning Anew" ~ I think that is a wonderful term which they unknowingly use which also points to what we await: Jesus' Coming. The Last Trumpet is one of two shofars made from the Adekah ram used on the previous Yom Kippur sacrifice.
      The First Trumpet is blown on the next Festival of First Fruits.
      The Last Trumpet is blown on the next Festival of Trumpets.
      They are bookends to the growing season.
      To me, eschatologically, they are also the bookends to the Church Age.
        That is a great reference, and not one I have used previously.  I will use it in the future.  Thank-you! Zechariah has SO MUCH to say about the end times! 
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        Yes, I think there is.  I look to the Great Trumpet of Isaiah which I peg to the aspect of Yom Kippur when the "Atonement", or as one Jewish author puts it: the "At one moment", when the Lord assembles the Remnant and the Meek who do survive the one 'seven'. I am not alone in looking at this as the third named Trumpet of God.
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      Fitted the bow with Ephraim,
      And raised up your sons, O Zion,
      Against your sons, O Greece,
      And made you like the sword of a mighty man.” 14 Then the Lord will appear over them,
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