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How many of us have wood burning stoves that we use for heat and/or cooking? How do you all feel about this one? Personally, I don't like the overreaching of the government as it is, this is just another example.

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

I mostly agree with you, except for doing away with all prisons.  Not such a good idea in my opinion, unless you plan to execute all violent criminals.  I certainly don't want them out on the street.  Yes, abolish the EPA.  There is a radio talk show host who suggested we repeal the 20Th century.  Sounds like a good idea to me.  The Presidential power to issue executive orders needs to be taken away, and all executive orders ever written need to be made null and void. 

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Getting rid of prisons is a bad idea. And I think they are too lenient anyway. 

 

 

This is a bad decision on the part of the epa. My brother in law lives on the reservation and has a wood stove to heat the house. In rural areas like where he lives, other options are not available or within the means of those living there. Do away with them and you will have folks freezing to death or dying of carbon monoxide poisoning as they attempt to use other means that are not safe.

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

well as i do agree with the first parts of your rant hehehe there is some of it I have to tend to want to think over such as taking away of prisons. But i do agree with getting rid of all those stupid exective fiat orders that have costs us billions and which are really uninforceable according to the constitution anyway and that they should but out of school issues.

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Getting rid of prisons is a bad idea. And I think they are too lenient anyway. 

 

 

This is a bad decision on the part of the epa. My brother in law lives on the reservation and has a wood stove to heat the house. In rural areas like where he lives, other options are not available or within the means of those living there. Do away with them and you will have folks freezing to death or dying of carbon monoxide poisoning as they attempt to use other means that are not safe.

agreed jadey ....whole heartedly :)

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

well as i do agree with the first parts of your rant hehehe there is some of it I have to tend to want to think over such as taking away of prisons. But i do agree with getting rid of all those stupid exective fiat orders that have costs us billions and which are really uninforceable according to the constitution anyway and that they should but out of school issues.

 

Executive orders?  Have a heart.  The Ob needs to decide who makes the coffee -- otherwise they wud be chaos in the White House.

 

The Law of Moses had no prisons, but an effective theoretical (not practiced) justice system.  For example, for theft, the thief makes 4-fold restitution -- you can throw in some stripes also!  The eye for eye & tooth for tooth had the proviso that the victim could take a money payment if he were inclined.  Consider that a whipping makes a public humiliation, does not involve criminals having a power structure within prisons, does not allow sodomite rape, is cheap & quick.  Now if you had the alternative of a year in prison or a beating, which would you take?

 

What I want to know is why innocent taxpayers have to pay a huge amount of money to provide free room, board, entertainment, & medical care to criminals?

 

Habitual criminals who are dead set on crime need execution.

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

well as i do agree with the first parts of your rant hehehe there is some of it I have to tend to want to think over such as taking away of prisons. But i do agree with getting rid of all those stupid exective fiat orders that have costs us billions and which are really uninforceable according to the constitution anyway and that they should but out of school issues.

 

Executive orders?  Have a heart.  The Ob needs to decide who makes the coffee -- otherwise they wud be chaos in the White House.

 

The Law of Moses had no prisons, but an effective theoretical (not practiced) justice system.  For example, for theft, the thief makes 4-fold restitution -- you can throw in some stripes also!  The eye for eye & tooth for tooth had the proviso that the victim could take a money payment if he were inclined.  Consider that a whipping makes a public humiliation, does not involve criminals having a power structure within prisons, does not allow sodomite rape, is cheap & quick.  Now if you had the alternative of a year in prison or a beating, which would you take?

 

What I want to know is why innocent taxpayers have to pay a huge amount of money to provide free room, board, entertainment, & medical care to criminals?

 

Habitual criminals who are dead set on crime need execution.

 

They also stoned people to death, "ye who is whithout sin cast the first stone"

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I think if truth be known at least part of those in or back the EPA would like to snuff out humans....    at least most humans anyway.

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Love is alive sayeth:

"They also stoned people to death, "ye who is whithout sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

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Love is alive sayeth: "They also stoned people to death, "ye who is without sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

 

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A Supposed

 

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”  John 8:7 (ESV)

 

Biblical

 

The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 17:7 (NIV)

 

Story

 

"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. Matthew 7:1 (NASB)

 

Known

 

Therefore you are without excuse, whoever you are, when you judge someone else. For on whatever grounds you judge another, you condemn yourself, because you who judge practice the same things. Romans 2:1 (NET Bible)

 

By Unbelievers

 

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 (KJV)

 

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I burn wood most of the time. This year I wasn't able and I had to spend $1100 to heat my home for 2 months. I would lose my home if they outlawed my stove without reducing the cost of alternatives.

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

well as i do agree with the first parts of your rant hehehe there is some of it I have to tend to want to think over such as taking away of prisons. But i do agree with getting rid of all those stupid exective fiat orders that have costs us billions and which are really uninforceable according to the constitution anyway and that they should but out of school issues.

 

Executive orders?  Have a heart.  The Ob needs to decide who makes the coffee -- otherwise they wud be chaos in the White House.

 

The Law of Moses had no prisons, but an effective theoretical (not practiced) justice system.  For example, for theft, the thief makes 4-fold restitution -- you can throw in some stripes also!  The eye for eye & tooth for tooth had the proviso that the victim could take a money payment if he were inclined.  Consider that a whipping makes a public humiliation, does not involve criminals having a power structure within prisons, does not allow sodomite rape, is cheap & quick.  Now if you had the alternative of a year in prison or a beating, which would you take?

 

What I want to know is why innocent taxpayers have to pay a huge amount of money to provide free room, board, entertainment, & medical care to criminals?

 

Habitual criminals who are dead set on crime need execution.

 

I am trying to have a heart these days when it comes to politics, however, they are so corrupt that it is getting markedly harder everyday. :) However, I do agree that the EPA should be abolished, along with the Department of Homeland security and a few more that I won't even go into here.  As far as the laws of Moses goes, as I said earlier, "those who have sin cast the first store"

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I burn wood most of the time. This year I wasn't able and I had to spend $1100 to heat my home for 2 months. I would lose my home if they outlawed my stove without reducing the cost of alternatives.

I agree, alot of people who use stoves for primary sources of heat whould freeze to death. The EPA is trying to play God and that is an extremely BAD thing. Only God has the right to decide who lives and who dies not the EPA and their too far overreaching regulations.

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Love is alive sayeth: "They also stoned people to death, "ye who is without sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

 

~

 

A Supposed

 

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”  John 8:7 (ESV)

 

Biblical

 

The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 17:7 (NIV)

 

Story

 

"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. Matthew 7:1 (NASB)

 

Known

 

Therefore you are without excuse, whoever you are, when you judge someone else. For on whatever grounds you judge another, you condemn yourself, because you who judge practice the same things. Romans 2:1 (NET Bible)

 

By Unbelievers

 

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 (KJV)

 

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As I said to another comment watch you are exactly right. :)

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Love is alive sayeth:

"They also stoned people to death, "ye who is whithout sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

it is nonsense, that comment was in reguards to a comment about going back to Moses time and getting rid of prisions!!

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IMHO, the EPA needs to be snuffed out.

In fact, I would like to see all laws (except those against persecution of Afro-americans) passed since 1959, taken off the books with all executive orders & legislative SCOTUS decisions since then.  So all govt agencies made after 1959 would be scrapped.  Also, the federal govt would be kicked out of education.  All schemes that bully states by grabbing their money, then giving them a chance to get some back if they knuckle under, would be thrown out.

 

After the dust settled, they might need to re-enact a few  of them laws.

 

Whilst I rant on, we also gone eliminate all prisons!  If the Law of Moses didn't need 'em, neither do we!  And we gone make property tax & sales tax abolished; so's we peoples can actually own our homes & so's the govt can butt out of sales transactions.

 

I'll end the rant here, lest people start screaming, gnashing their teeth, jumping out of windows, and Joe Nameth.

well as i do agree with the first parts of your rant hehehe there is some of it I have to tend to want to think over such as taking away of prisons. But i do agree with getting rid of all those stupid exective fiat orders that have costs us billions and which are really uninforceable according to the constitution anyway and that they should but out of school issues.

 

Executive orders?  Have a heart.  The Ob needs to decide who makes the coffee -- otherwise they wud be chaos in the White House.

 

The Law of Moses had no prisons, but an effective theoretical (not practiced) justice system.  For example, for theft, the thief makes 4-fold restitution -- you can throw in some stripes also!  The eye for eye & tooth for tooth had the proviso that the victim could take a money payment if he were inclined.  Consider that a whipping makes a public humiliation, does not involve criminals having a power structure within prisons, does not allow sodomite rape, is cheap & quick.  Now if you had the alternative of a year in prison or a beating, which would you take?

 

What I want to know is why innocent taxpayers have to pay a huge amount of money to provide free room, board, entertainment, & medical care to criminals?

 

Habitual criminals who are dead set on crime need execution.

 

your rants are welcome! I agree with some, although some I do not agree with!!

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Love is alive sayeth:

"They also stoned people to death, "ye who is whithout sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

Jesus does say to the men who wanted to the stone the woman for adultry, when they brought her before Jesus he did say to them "He who is with out sin cast the first stone" you are free to look it up :)

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This is all part of Agenda21--depopulation in the guise of 'EnvironMENTALISM'.  It's unbelievable how far these people have progressed with their plans...As America sleeps on.

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I think if truth be known at least part of those in or back the EPA would like to snuff out humans....    at least most humans anyway.

That could possibly be true

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/17776-epa-wants-to-snuff-out-wood-and-pellet-stoves

 

 

How many of us have wood burning stoves that we use for heat and/or cooking? How do you all feel about this one? Personally, I don't like the overreaching of the government as it is, this is just another example.

Under most circumstances I would agree with the majority. But I am so sensitive to smoke that it has caused me to lose 3 months of work. My neighbors to the north and west have put in wood stoves. The smoke settles in our yard during the winter and especially during inversions. I immediately lose my voice to the extent that no sound comes out at all, and it does permanent damage. After my 3 months leave from work I retired. Since then every winter during the last half of December through March I can barely talk and get severe asthma as well.

I can only wish they would stop using wood stoves. It will probably never happen.

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Love is alive sayeth:

"They also stoned people to death, "ye who is whithout sin cast the first stone:"

 

That idea is nonsense.  Do you suppose that if a criminal is on trial, no one can sit on the jury unless he is sinless?   No one can punish him if found guilty.   Then you would have no trials & no punishment -- crime would run wild.

 

The Bible does not say what you quoted.  That is from the apocryphal addition to John, in the first part of John 8 in the KJV.  That passage is not in the oldest manuscripts.

 

It must be the most known by unbelievers supposed Bible story.

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.  I do appologize i should have put up the entire verse not just a part of it, although I did think you would get the basic jest of the matter, that is still no excuse for not putting up the entire verse. And news flash, I am a believer!!

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