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Where will the righteous spend eternity ?

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The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years or eternity or 7 years. Some of these expect to return to planet earth at the end of this millennium in heaven. Countless sermons have been preached, endless tracts, booklets, magazines etc. have been printed all exhorting the "faithful" about this great expectation. Those who teach otherwise are dismissed as weird or false. But what does the bible teach my worthy friends ? 

 

Do we go to heaven ?

 

How long and what will we be doing there ?



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The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years or eternity or 7 years.

 

No the vast majority don't believe that.  You are confusing the rapture with the second coming.   The thousand years isn't in heaven, it's on earth during the millennial reign of Christ.

 

Before attempting to dismantle what others believe perhaps you should try first being able to correctly frame their position.  You obviously don't know what others believe.



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Blessings Izzel

   Yes Izzel,,,,just as Shiloh has said .the Millenial is the thousand year period on earth with Christ........I don't know how you thought it was in heaven?But anyway I personally don't believe the vast majority of people in the world consider these things at all & thats why we sure have our work to do preaching the Gospel to every creature in all the nations.......

                                                                                                                                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik



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The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years or eternity or 7 years.

 

No the vast majority don't believe that.  You are confusing the rapture with the second coming.   The thousand years isn't in heaven, it's on earth during the millennial reign of Christ.

 

Before attempting to dismantle what others believe perhaps you should try first being able to correctly frame their position.  You obviously don't know what others believe.

 

You may say so because of your belief I just posted what is factual the majority of people believe that at some point they will go to heaven 



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Blessings Izzel

   Yes Izzel,,,,just as Shiloh has said .the Millenial is the thousand year period on earth with Christ........I don't know how you thought it was in heaven?But anyway I personally don't believe the vast majority of people in the world consider these things at all & thats why we sure have our work to do preaching the Gospel to every creature in all the nations.......

                                                                                                                                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik

The majority of people say so   SDA ,JW, Evangelical you name it 

 

Ask anyone on the street if they will go to heaven albeit not regarding the time they will say yes wheather a 1000 year eternity or 7 years 



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The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years or eternity or 7 years.

 

No the vast majority don't believe that.  You are confusing the rapture with the second coming.   The thousand years isn't in heaven, it's on earth during the millennial reign of Christ.

 

Before attempting to dismantle what others believe perhaps you should try first being able to correctly frame their position.  You obviously don't know what others believe.

 

You may say so because of your belief I just posted what is factual the majority of people believe that at some point they will go to heaven 

 

That is a lie from Satan.Only the true believers in Jesus Christ the Risen Son of God will go to heaven.



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Blessings Izzel

   Yes Izzel,,,,just as Shiloh has said .the Millenial is the thousand year period on earth with Christ........I don't know how you thought it was in heaven?But anyway I personally don't believe the vast majority of people in the world consider these things at all & thats why we sure have our work to do preaching the Gospel to every creature in all the nations.......

                                                                                                                                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik

Do you believe in the rapture ?  :happyhappy:



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The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years or eternity or 7 years.

 

No the vast majority don't believe that.  You are confusing the rapture with the second coming.   The thousand years isn't in heaven, it's on earth during the millennial reign of Christ.

 

Before attempting to dismantle what others believe perhaps you should try first being able to correctly frame their position.  You obviously don't know what others believe.

 

You may say so because of your belief I just posted what is factual the majority of people believe that at some point they will go to heaven 

 

That is a lie from Satan.Only the true believers in Jesus Christ the Risen Son of God will go to heaven.

 

Thanks for the confirmation 

 

How long would they be in heaven ?



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Heaven bound 

 
1 Thes.4:16-17. Is this  prove that believers would go to heaven. V17 says; "Then we ...Shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord."


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Blessings Izzel

      In your OP that is not what you said,you said the vast majority believe they will go to heaven etc etc & then you said after THE MILLENIUM IN HEAVEN.......I only confirmed what Shiloh said,,,,the millenium is Not in heaven.....My asking anyone "on the street " is not going to cover the vast majority of the world so I do not think what responses I would get would give me a precise consensus(are you always combative in this passive aggressive approach?)...........And what does my belief about the rapture  have do do with what I said about preaching the Gospel to every nation

      Since you asked the question ,I will answer it...................yes I do ,just because the word "rapture "  does not appear in the Bible I do believe that it refers to the taking up with Christ....................                                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                                     All Glory to God.....Kwik



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To answer the titles question, "Where will the righteous spend eternity ?" ... Where ever God places them.

To answer your second question, "what does the bible teach my worthy friends ?" ... The bible teaches we will be with the Lord.

To answer your third question, "Do we go to heaven ?" ... Yes, for that is where the Wedding Feast will take place.

To answer your forth question, "How long and what will we be doing there ? " ...As long as He wants us to be.

To answer your fifth question, "How long and what will we be doing there ?" ... Loving God.



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Blessings Izzel

      In your OP that is not what you said,you said the vast majority believe they will go to heaven etc etc & then you said after THE MILLENIUM IN HEAVEN.......I only confirmed what Shiloh said,,,,the millenium is Not in heaven.....My asking anyone "on the street " is not going to cover the vast majority of the world so I do not think what responses I would get would give me a precise consensus(are you always combative in this passive aggressive approach?)...........And what does my belief about the rapture  have do do with what I said about preaching the Gospel to every nation

      Since you asked the question ,I will answer it...................yes I do ,just because the word "rapture "  does not appear in the Bible I do believe that it refers to the taking up with Christ....................                                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                                     All Glory to God.....Kwik

I am not combatative everyone sees things different i may sound passive to someone else while you may sound aggressive to someone else hope you understand 

 

If you believe in the rapture then at some point the saints are in heaven 

 

How long would they be in heaven 3 1/2 years or 7 years 

 

Thus why i  said the majority 

 

The majority believe when you die you go to heaven 

The majority believe in the rapture 

the majority believe that the 1000 year will be in heaven 



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Blessings Izzel....

     Well I am glad you made your position clear......and yes,I do understand

As far as your questions,that I don't really understand because I simply cannot understand how you came up with this world wide census & what people believe?Lets take a mom5ent ,if we may & let me ask you something,if you don't mind.....What do YOU believe?Lets forget for a moment about what you assume everyone else believes,okay?                                                                                                               With love-in Christ,Kwik



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Izzel, if you don't mind me asking, can you share where you got your figures in regards to the majority believing in the Rapture, and the majority believing the Millennium to be taking place in Heaven? Was it something you read somewhere, or maybe based on your own experiences talking with people? Thanks.



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Izzel, if you don't mind me asking, can you share where you got your figures in regards to the majority believing in the Rapture, and the majority believing the Millennium to be taking place in Heaven? Was it something you read somewhere, or maybe based on your own experiences talking with people? Thanks.

Does the majority of the christian world go to church on a Sunday or saturday ?



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Blessings Izzel....

     Well I am glad you made your position clear......and yes,I do understand

As far as your questions,that I don't really understand because I simply cannot understand how you came up with this world wide census & what people believe?Lets take a mom5ent ,if we may & let me ask you something,if you don't mind.....What do YOU believe?Lets forget for a moment about what you assume everyone else believes,okay?                                                                                                               With love-in Christ,Kwik

 Would you say that  the majority of the world know john 3:16



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Blessings Izzel

    I honestly do not know what the majority of the world knows.............I can only hope they know John 3:16,wouldn't you agree?

                                                                                                                                                                               With love-in Christ.Kwik



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Blessings Izzel

    I honestly do not know what the majority of the world knows.............I can only hope they know John 3:16,wouldn't you agree?

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Greeting kwikphilly

 

That exactly the most popular verse in the world is john 3:16

 

Christian world 

The majority of the world goes to church on Sunday 

 

The majority of the world believes in the rapture 



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Weekly statistics(World)

Following attendance statistics are mainly taken from the 2004 Gallup report and may not represent current attendance figures due to ongoing secularization.
Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%)
Austria 18% [17] Belgium 7% [18] Canada 20%[19] Denmark 3% [17]
Cyprus 25% [17] Czech Republic 11% [17] Estonia 4% [17] Finland 5% [17]
France 12% [20] Greece 27% [17] Hungary 12% [17]
Ireland 46% [21] Italy 31% [17] Latvia 7% [17] Lithuania 14% [17]
Malta 75% [17] Norway 3% [22] Poland 63% [17] Portugal 29% [17]
Slovakia 33% [17] Slovenia 18% [17] Spain 21% [17] Sweden 5% [17]
United Kingdom 12% [23] United States 43%[19]

A study by the European Social Survey conducted in 2008 found these rates of respondents never attending religious service (excluding special occasions):[24]

<10%: Cyprus, Greece, Poland
10-20%: Croatia, Italy, Ukraine
20-30%: Turkey (Islam), Portugal
30-40%: Estonia, Russia, Germany, Sweden
40-50%: Israel (Judaism), Spain, Netherlands
50-60%: Belgium, Britain, France
>60%: Czech Republic
Weekly statistics(Christians)

Following attendance statistics are mainly taken from the 2004 Gallup report and may not represent current attendance figures due to ongoing secularization.
Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%) Country Attendance (%)
Austria 18% [17] Belgium 7% [18] Canada 20%[19] Denmark 3% [17]
Cyprus 25% [17] Czech Republic 11% [17] Estonia 4% [17] Finland 5% [17]
France 12% [20] Greece 27% [17] Hungary 12% [17]
Ireland 46% [21] Italy 31% [17] Latvia 7% [17] Lithuania 14% [17]
Malta 75% [17] Norway 3% [22] Poland 63% [17] Portugal 29% [17]
Slovakia 33% [17] Slovenia 18% [17] Spain 21% [17] Sweden 5% [17]
United Kingdom 12% [23] United States 43%[19]

A study by the European Social Survey conducted in 2008 found these rates of respondents never attending religious service (excluding special occasions):[24]

<10%: Cyprus, Greece, Poland
10-20%: Croatia, Italy, Ukraine
20-30%: Turkey (Islam), Portugal
30-40%: Estonia, Russia, Germany, Sweden
40-50%: Israel (Judaism), Spain, Netherlands
50-60%: Belgium, Britain, France
>60%: Czech Republic



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Izzel, I'm going to take your reply as an indication that you do mind me asking. This indicates to me that you're assuming what you think most other people believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, and share with us where you got your figures.

 

Saturday/Sunday worship has nothing to do with the question I asked you, and is a red herring, a distraction, because you don't want to answer my question. This isn't necessary. If you're assuming, it's ok to say so, and then we can have an honest, meaningful discussion about what most of the world really believes, and how we can gauge that, and if it's even possible to gauge.






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