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For lack of vision my people perish prov 2:11

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avemaria

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Proverbs 29:18 "For lack of vision my people perish"

Do you have your own idea of what that means?

Edited by avemaria, 14 May 2012 - 11:26 AM.


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For lack of vision my people perish prov 2:11

Do you have your own idea of what that means?

I am sorry. I cannot find this in this chapter. May I suggest that when you refer to scripture, you copy and past the passage you speak of. This will ensure that you are referring to the proper book, chapter and verse, and save people from having to search for what you are speaking of.

Proverbs 2

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Value of Wisdom

1My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2 So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3 Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4 If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
And find the knowledge of God.
6 For the Lord gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7 He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;
8 He guards the paths of justice,
And preserves the way of His saints.
9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice,
Equity and every good path.

10 When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,
11 Discretion will preserve you;
Understanding will keep you,
12 To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things,
13 From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;
14 Who rejoice in doing evil,
And delight in the perversity of the wicked;
15 Whose ways are crooked,
And who are devious in their paths;
16 To deliver you from the immoral woman,
From the seductress who flatters with her words,
17 Who forsakes the companion of her youth,
And forgets the covenant of her God.
18 For her house leads down to death,
And her paths to the dead;
19 None who go to her return,
Nor do they regain the paths of life—
20 So you may walk in the way of goodness,
And keep to the paths of righteousness.
21 For the upright will dwell in the land,
And the blameless will remain in it;
22 But the wicked will be cut off from the earth,
And the unfaithful will be uprooted from it.

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Oops I was looking at two different proverbs and I got the wrong verse
Proverbs 29:18

Edited by avemaria, 14 May 2012 - 12:45 PM.


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Proverbs 29:18 "For lack of vision my people perish"

Do you have your own idea of what that means?

Proverbs 29:18

(ESV) Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off restraint, but blessed is he who keeps the law.

(KJV) Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

(KJV+) Where there is noH369 vision,H2377 the peopleH5971 perish:H6544 but he that keepethH8104 the law,H8451 happyH835 is he.

(MKJV) Where there is no vision, the people perish; but he who keeps the law, he is blessed.

I suggest you post the entire verse when quoting and not just half of it. It kind of changes the meaning a bit if you don't.

Blessings

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Proverbs 29:18 "For lack of vision my people perish"

Do you have your own idea of what that means....

Well

Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. Proverbs 29:18

Yes

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:29-31

Yes

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

Yes

And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
Isaiah 6:9-10

I Think I Do

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Romans 11:25-29

KING Jesus Loves His Brother The Jew

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Matthew 25:31-33

How About You?

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So sort of, in a less eloquent way, without hope my people perish

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The following is from net bible, giving an explanation of the passage

net bible's translation

Proverbs
29:18 When there is no prophetic vision, the people cast off restraint, but the one who keeps the law, blessed is he!

commentary from net bible

The AV translation has resulted in misunderstanding of this proverb. The “vision” (Heb. hazon) does not refer to some dream of success a person may have but to a prophetic vision that was a revelation from God (cf. 1 Sam. 3:1). The Hebrew verb translated “perish” (AV; para) does not mean “die in their sins” (e.g., because someone did not see the “vision” of the importance of evangelism). It means “cast off restraint.” Without the guidance of divine revelation people abandon themselves to their own sinful ways. God’s Word restrains human wickedness, and those who keep it are happy. Thus “a nation’s well-being depends on obedience to divine revelation.”[259] There must be knowledge of divine revelation through preaching for there to be obedience to it.[260]

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thanks little brown church
best explanation of seen thus far




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