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christians and non-believers with worry...

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Lets discuss why christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers? any thoughts, care to share? I have my own thoughts on this but would like to see what others think.



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Because were all human

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Because too many folks are passive believers. Giving up our cares to the Lord and not worrying takes an active leap of faith.



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Lets discuss why christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers? any thoughts, care to share? I have my own thoughts on this but would like to see what others think.

 

As the patriot2013 notes, because we are human. Faith or Christianity is a means to deal with those aspects of our human condition. Note sure why having what is natural is a condition to defined as guilt.


Edited by joyjuice, 19 January 2014 - 01:10 PM.


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Because too many folks are passive believers. Giving up our cares to the Lord and not worrying takes an active leap of faith.


I fully agree. Faith is the means to leave the flesh, or natural way behind, trusting in Him to guide us through. This does require a strong relationship with God, strong enough to know when and how He is guiding us through situations. Faith is the active ingredient in our lives that connects us to Him.

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Lets discuss why christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers? any thoughts, care to share? I have my own thoughts on this but would like to see what others think.

I would have to say that a lot of atheists that I have met live their lives without any guilt, worry, or anxiety. According to atheists there really is no moral code besides the one that you make but I will say that many of them do have pretty decent moral codes.(they can't justify their morals though) Maybe it's them kidding themselves into thinking that they're better than us? In god's law however all are guilty and deserve punishment. Well hope that was helpful.



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Because were all human

 

Yup. And when we think we are perfected in trusting in the Lord, suddenly we get hit with circumstances that stretch that trust, and it is like we have to re-learn how to take a leap of faith.



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As a non Christian, and in fact non religious, just like everyone else we do worry and get anxienty just as anyone else. And yes, contrary I guess to some views, there is a moral code for us non believers.

I think the atheist (which I am not) position is there is no absolute moral code.



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Don't worry be happy!

You know...we had bought a new roof last year and its been developing leaks since the time it was put on even unto this very day. In fact three more leaks have started inside the house just this week. I think its all how you look at it because rain can be relaxing.

So I looked again at the situation (after grabbing another bucket) and comforted myself by singing the raindrops song...

"Raindrops keep falling on my head

But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turnin' red

Crying's not for me

Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complainin'

Because I'm free

Nothing's worrying me..."

Whose worried bout wet stuff, ceiling stains, mold issues, resale values and all of that?

Awh...I'm just pulling your legs, Ive hyperventilated a couple of times already and had my first Linda Blair (from the exorcist) moment just this week.

Which freaked me out because I didn't know I was capable of doing that head spinning thing she did or talk in that same creepy tone lol

I really want to write a sweet message to the corporation hired contractors across my roof itelf (in giant letters) just so everyone could see it on my own property (but from Google earth). Its my property, I cant help people from all over the world can see my roof message (lol)

I just gotta think of what I want to say.

Because if you do such a thing right it could be pretty funny (and go viral) and make tweeking their noses fun (while getting my message across that I am so not pleased.

Then make Tee shirts or something, but Im still thinking through the details lol

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If it helps, I was highly amused by what you just wrote!



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The obvious answer to me Is that anyone's faith can waver under extreme conditions.  Ask Peter.  At the same time, who says Christians as a whole worry as much as unbelievers?  Has there been any survey done that shows that to be true?  I can't deny at times worrying about things, but without something concrete showing no difference between the world and Christians, I am not even sure this is true. 



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Show of hands:

 

Who here has not been worried over anything last year?



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Show of hands:

 

Who here has not been worried over anything last year?

The question is not whether or not we have worried over things in the last year.  The question is whether or not Christians worry as much as non-believers.  There is no question nearly everyone worries about something at times in their life.  Return to the first sentence of the OP. 

 

"Lets discuss why Christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers."  Who is to say they are? 



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Show of hands:

 

Who here has not been worried over anything last year?

*raises hand*

 

just kidding. like anyone else I do worry. not as most as many though, it actually makes my wife really angry how easy going I am about a lot of things. shes like "arnt you worried about that?" (usually about finances) and im like, nope life goes on one way or another. lol. I do have my fair share though.



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Lets discuss why christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers? any thoughts, care to share? I have my own thoughts on this but would like to see what others think.

 

Born again Christians never have to worry about going to hell.

Nonbelievers are unable to worry about it because they've already been deceived. (spiritually blinded)

If every nonbeliever knew in their heart they were headed to hell, there would be more Christians. (and probably that wouldn't even change their minds)



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Why I worry?  The short answer is because I have a very over active imagination. It is both a talent and a curse. The long answer will take more time to explain which I can not do right now. Maybe later.



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Show of hands:

 

Who here has not been worried over anything last year?

The question is not whether or not we have worried over things in the last year.  The question is whether or not Christians worry as much as non-believers.  There is no question nearly everyone worries about something at times in their life.  Return to the first sentence of the OP.

 

I asked because some of the responses gave the impression that a real Christian never worries or that the person writing the post is above worry.

 

So, my question does relate to the OP. Check for logs in your own eye first, then respond.

 

 

"Lets discuss why christians are just as guilty with worry and anxiety as non-believers?"

 

Ask first, "Do I worry, have I worried?" If the answer is yes, then ask yourself, "Why do I worry?" Then answer the question presented.

 

I say, yes, I have worried. Do I overcome that worry by trusting in the Lord and surrendering the circumstances to Him? I make the effort, but I fail so, so very often.

 

If someone here can claim they likewise do not have this struggle, then please share your story with examples how you have become Teflon to worry.



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Christians are human. Are child is in the hospital ill we are going to worry. But we should be able to have peace through anything, We should not stress the small stuff like what we ware, or when are next meal is. But if we do remember you are human and repent. We are always growing.



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oh wow...lol...this topic is going in all different directions than what I had hoped for it but i must say it does make for a good discussion.

 

First of all, thank you for those who have responded, and no I do not think I am above worry, infact far from it.

My answer to the question is.... we all get "busy" with life and sometimes crowd God out at times and by doing this can bring on worry and frustrations. As for being human, yes we are human and have feelings and concerns but God gave us His word and Jesus to tap in here with, does this set us apart from the non-believers?  When we stay connected to God, we find the peace even through the storms of life. I am learning as well on here as most of you are. This thought came across my mind and I wanted to share it openly to see if we have the same views.

 

blessings,

desi

 

 



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Christians are human. Are child is in the hospital ill we are going to worry. But we should be able to have peace through anything, We should not stress the small stuff like what we ware, or when are next meal is. But if we do remember you are human and repent. We are always growing.

Unfortunately, most of us do worry about things like that, in spite of the fact Jesus said not to.  The only thing this indicates to me is lack of faith.  There may be some people out there that never worry about anything, but I can't say I have come to that place yet.  It is certainly something to work on. 






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