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I have a 8 year old and a 6 year old they both want to be baptized. Should I baptize them?

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If they want to be and they know what it entails. I'm sure that a 6 year-old is old enough to want to accept Jesus. Besides child baptism does no harm even with very small children. It's just that with babies and infants they are not old enough to understand.

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I have a 8 year old and a 6 year old they both want to be baptized. Should I baptize them?

Baptism is an ordinance commanded to believers who have received Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior.  Baptism is a testimony that one has placed his or her faith in Christ.  Have they made a public profession of their faith in Christ?

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

If one is saved, one has declared that Jesus is his/her lord......   Jesus told us to be baptized....    it may not be needed to be saved, but if you are saved you'd better do as your lord says and be baptized.  It's a dangerous teaching to say that it is not needed....    people might get the idea that one doesn't ever need to be baptized.

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

No it is not a religious ritual.  It is an ordinance that Jesus commanded us to do.   It is needed because it is an act of obedience to the Lord.

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

No it is not a religious ritual.  It is an ordinance that Jesus commanded us to do.   It is needed because it is an act of obedience to the Lord.

 

Amen, and if the kids have not given their lives to Jesus, and don't know what they are actually doing just yet. Wait until they do.

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I believe we should be baptized!

Acts 2:38 says, "and Peter said unto them, `Reform, and be baptized each of you on the name of Jesus Christ, to remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit"

Matthew 28:19, 20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

Acts 8:35-38 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 16:31, 33 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.”

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They understand sin and repentance. They want to be baptized. They have given a declaration of faith in Christ. They believe they are to follow Christ with all of their hearts and can articulate this with sincerity.

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I believe we should be baptized!

Acts 2:38 says, "and Peter said unto them, `Reform, and be baptized each of you on the name of Jesus Christ, to remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit"

Matthew 28:19, 20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

Acts 8:35-38 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”

Acts 16:31, 33 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.”

I agree, but baptism is for believers.

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They understand sin and repentance. They want to be baptized. They have given a declaration of faith in Christ. They believe they are to follow Christ with all of their hearts and can articulate this with sincerity.

Well then you need to talk it over with your pastor.  He will need some assurance that your kids are believers and are qualified as candidates for baptism

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

No it is not a religious ritual.  It is an ordinance that Jesus commanded us to do.   It is needed because it is an act of obedience to the Lord.

 

 

Where does Jesus say water baptism is a requirement for faith salvation.

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Water baptism is a religious ritual that is not needed. To be saved, one must have faith that Jesus is Lord and God in the flesh. Romans 10:9.

 

In my honest opinion, it's very rare for a child to do this until they reach adulthood. But I'm not one to judge so...

No it is not a religious ritual.  It is an ordinance that Jesus commanded us to do.   It is needed because it is an act of obedience to the Lord.

 

 

Where does Jesus say water baptism is a requirement for faith salvation.

 

Do you believe we are bound to follow Jesus's commands once we are saved?

 

Mark 16:15-16

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

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he who believes and is baptized shall be saved......   if you don't believe then baptism has nothing to offer for you are already condemned.   If a person says he believes but does not get baptized, does he really believe.....   has that person made or allowed Jesus to the his/her Lord....

 

It's very dangerous to preach non baptism is safe.

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The assistant pastor said it is okay for a believer to baptize a believer and there was no requirement to baptize or be baptized as long as it was understood.

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Mark 16:16 says, "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Whether one can be saved without baptism... we are certainly supposed to be baptized.

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Mark 16:16 says, "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Whether one can be saved without baptism... we are certainly supposed to be baptized.

if a person says he believes and is not baptized, does he/she really believe?

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Do you believe we are bound to follow Jesus's commands once we are saved?

 

Mark 16:15-16

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

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he who believes and is baptized shall be saved......   if you don't believe then baptism has nothing to offer for you are already condemned.   If a person says he believes but does not get baptized, does he really believe.....   has that person made or allowed Jesus to the his/her Lord....

 

It's very dangerous to preach non baptism is safe.

 

Following his commandments and being baptized by water are two different topics.

I'm referring to water baptism, not faith baptism.

Water baptism does not save you, only Jesus does by Grace through faith.

Matt 3:11 "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

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Do you believe we are bound to follow Jesus's commands once we are saved?

 

Mark 16:15-16

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

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he who believes and is baptized shall be saved......   if you don't believe then baptism has nothing to offer for you are already condemned.   If a person says he believes but does not get baptized, does he really believe.....   has that person made or allowed Jesus to the his/her Lord....

 

It's very dangerous to preach non baptism is safe.

 

Following his commandments and being baptized by water are two different topics.

I'm referring to water baptism, not faith baptism.

Water baptism does not save you, only Jesus does by Grace through faith.

Matt 3:11 "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

 

I didn't say that is saves you, what I said is that if you are saved, you will do the things Jesus told us to do and he did tell us that we should be baptized and I do think it is talking about water baptism if you read the whole paragraph.

 

People can get saved and go to heaven if they don't have time to get baptized, but if you refuse to be baptized or just decide it's not necessary then you are not doing what Jesus told us and you are not letting him be your Lord and you are not saved.

 

Baptism is an act of obedience that if missing puts a serious question as to whether salvation happened at all.

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and he did tell us that we should be baptized and I do think it is talking about water baptism if you read the whole paragraph.

 

that we should be baptized in water? Where in the paragraph does it say that.

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and he did tell us that we should be baptized and I do think it is talking about water baptism if you read the whole paragraph.

 

that we should be baptized in water? Where in the paragraph does it say that.

 

Acts 8:36-38New International Version (NIV)

36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” [37] [a] 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.

We are to be baptized with water.

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i cannot find one example in scriptures that one child as been baptized ,so if you can help me here show me where ?

 

 

even if you could show me one child that followed Christ as a disciple please show the scriptures ?

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Acts 8:36-38New International Version (NIV)

36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” [37] [a] 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.

 

Notice the eunuch also had faith that Jesus was Lord. If you don't have faith, you will simply remain a nonbeliever with wet hair and clothes. For example, a lot of parents baptize their babies in water but of course they do not have the capability to believe yet. Water is simply a symbol, faith comes first then water if you so desire. It's a religious tradition that is not needed anymore. Jesus died, so his blood is what saves, not water. Water gives the parent peace of mind I suppose.

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i cannot find one example in scriptures that one child as been baptized ,so if you can help me here show me where ?

 

 

even if you could show me one child that followed Christ as a disciple please show the scriptures ?

True. But it doesn't say not to also. Then can children not be disciples? Because the Bible doesn't say it it, does that mean they didn't? 

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Acts 8:36-38New International Version (NIV)

36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” [37] [a] 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.

 

Notice the eunuch also had faith that Jesus was Lord. If you don't have faith, you will simply remain a nonbeliever with wet hair and clothes. For example, a lot of parents baptize their babies in water but of course they do not have the capability to believe yet. Water is simply a symbol, faith comes first then water if you so desire. It's a religious tradition that is not needed anymore. Jesus died, so his blood is what saves, not water. Water gives the parent peace of mind I suppose.

 

I believe His blood saves, however, water baptism is commanded as a sign of repentance.

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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I believe His blood saves, however, water baptism is commanded as a sign of repentance.

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

No, it's not a commandment. Where in the 10 commandments do you see that water baptism is required for salvation?

 

http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/Q-Is-water-baptism-necessary-for-salvation-in-Christ.html

 

Q: Is water baptism necessary for salvation in Christ?

A: To answer this, let's look at an article by Robert Gromacki, entitled Repent and Be Baptized.

On the Day of Pentecost, Peter stood before a large crowd of Jews and declared: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). A reader has indicated that this verse has caused much confusion and seems to imply that water baptism is required for salvation.

There is a great difference between the real, intended meaning of a verse and its implied meaning. Implied understanding is based upon the first reading of a passage, but the correct interpretation can be gained only through a serious study of the verse itself, its context, and its relationship to the clear teaching of Scripture found elsewhere.

Several church groups believe in baptismal regeneration; teaching that both repentant faith and water baptism are essential prerequisites to personal salvation. To such groups, one must be baptized in water for the express purpose of gaining the remission of sins. A person thus expresses his faith in and through the necessary baptismal rite, not apart from it. These groups definitely point to Acts 2:38 as one of their supporting passages.

Our reader has asked for an answer to the claim of these groups. By following five steps, we can show that this verse does not teach that water baptism is essential to personal salvation.

Grammar

The grammar of the verse indicates that only repentance is required to receive the remission of sins. Here is my translation of the verse from the Greek, using some extra words to bring out some key differences not observable in the English text: "Repent [you, plural], and let each one [singular] of you be baptized [singular], upon the name of Jesus Christ into the remission of sins, and you will receive [you, plural] the gift of the Holy Spirit."

The command to repent and the promise to receive are both plural verbs. The command to be baptized is singular. The imperative ("let each one of you be baptized") is parenthetical. Peter's actual command was: "Repent . . . upon the name of Jesus Christ into the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Peter gave the audience only one thing to do in order to receive the remission of sins. There was only one direct command: "Repent [you, plural]."

Some other commentators approach the verse in a different way. They focus on the word "for" in the phrase "for the remission of sins." This word is a preposition (eis in Greek), normally translated as "into." But it can also be translated as "because of" or "on the basis of." In Matthew 12:41, Christ stated that the men of Nineveh "repented at the preaching of Jonah." The word "at" is the preposition eis, translated as "for" in Acts 2:38. Obviously the men of Nineveh did not repent to get the preaching of Jonah. Rather, they repented because Jonah had preached. The preaching occurred before the repentance. Likewise, the remission of sins in Acts 2:38 happened before the practice of water baptism.

Both of these views present acceptable alternatives to the view of baptismal regeneration.

Immediate Context

Second, the immediate context of the verse shows that only repentant faith is needed to gain divine forgiveness. Earlier in his message, Peter quoted from Joel (Acts 2:16-20) and concluded with that Old Testament prophet's evangelistic appeal: "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" (v. 21). In the Old Testament period, people became saved by calling upon Jehovah-God. They acknowledged their sinful need, believed that only God could deliver them, and placed their trust in Him. They did not submit to water baptism. If Peter meant that baptism was essential to salvation, then why did he quote from Joel? The reference would be irrelevant.

Later, Peter demonstrated that Jesus Christ was the One, the Lord-God, upon whom his audience should call in repentant faith. God the Father authenticated Christ through His miracles, death, resurrection and ascension into heaven (vv. 22-35). Peter then said: "Therefore let the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ" (v. 36).

The context later states: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized" (v. 41). What was the word they received? It was the content of Peter's sermon in which he demonstrated the deity and messiahship of Jesus Christ and the necessity to call upon Him for salvation. When they called upon Christ, they repented. That act of faith brought the remission of sins. They were then individually baptized to show their new identification with Christ.

Greater Context

Third, the greater context of the Book of Acts reveals that only repentant faith is the basis of securing divine forgiveness. Later, in his sermon at Solomon's Porch within the Temple, Peter appealed to the crowd; "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19). There is no mention of water baptism here as a requirement for the removal of sins.

When Peter stood before the unsaved religious leaders who had just imprisoned the apostles, he proclaimed: "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins" (5:30,31). Please note that repentance and forgiveness are joined. The human cause of salvation is repentance, and the divine effect is forgiveness.

When Peter explained the Gospel to the family of Cornelius, he stated: "To him [Christ] give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins" (10:43). That verse is extremely clear and simple. And the same person who spoke Acts 2:38 spoke Acts 10:43. Peter, thus, is his own best interpreter. When Cornelius' family heard those gracious words, they believed, received divine forgiveness, and were filled with the Holy Spirit (v. 44). These divine blessings came as a result of a faith-only experience. Although Cornelius and his house were baptized later, they were not baptized to receive the remission of sins. They already had that spiritual reality.

Later Peter explained to the Christians at Jerusalem the operation of God and the conversion of Cornelius and his family. They responded by glorifying God and saying: "Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life" (11:18).

Paul definitely indicated that water baptism plays no part in the securing of redemption. He exclaimed at Antioch in Pisidia: "Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things" (13:38,39). Add to that declaration the truth that Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel" (1 Cor. 1:17). Please note the juxtaposition between baptism and the Gospel message. Baptism is not an essential part of the Gospel. Submission to water baptism is a requirement for obedience after salvation (Matt. 28:18-20), but it is not a prerequisite to spiritual regeneration.

Ministry of John the Baptist

Fourth, Peter's statement in Acts 2:38 can be interpreted in the light of the ministry of John the Baptist. The forerunner of Christ preached: "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matt. 3:2). Mark wrote that John proclaimed "the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins" (Mark 1:4). Three features are common between this verse and Peter's appeal: baptism, repentance and remission of sins. But what actually secures the remission of sins? It is the repentance that produces the divine forgiveness. Water baptism is simply the outward sign or mode through which the believing sinner confesses the fact that he has already been forgiven through repentant faith in the saving Person and work of Christ.

Doctrine of Salvation

Fifth, the doctrine of salvation, taught throughout all of the Scriptures and evidenced in all dispensations and ages, stresses that only repentant faith is necessary to be justified and to receive divine forgiveness. Abraham "believed in the Lord; and [God] counted it to him for righteousness" (Gen. 15:6). From one age to another, the means of getting saved has remained the same. That is why New Testament writers often refer to Old Testament characters as examples of faith. To teach that water baptism is essential to salvation in this Church Age is to say that God has changed the method to gain justification.

Dear readers, rejoice in the truth: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" (Eph. 2:8).

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