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    • That`s good. And yes I started this one. All the best for your first thread. Marilyn.
    • Hi Retro, I see you have been doing some checking up. That`s good. here is your first Q. Okay, but what made you decide on MARCHING order for the order of the gemstones on the breastplate, rather than birth order? Here is what God`s word says - `Then you shall take two onyx stones and engrave on them the names of the sons of Israel: six of their names on one stone, and the remaining six names on the other stone, according to their BIRTH. .....And you shall put the two stones on the shoulders of the ephod as memorial stones for the sons of Israel.` (Ex. 28: 9 & 10 & 12) `You shall make the breastplate of judgment......And you shall put settings of stones in it, four rows of stones:.....And the stones shall have the names of the sons of Israel,.....according to the twelve tribes.` (Ex. 28: 15 - 21) The shoulder two stones were representing government, (the government shall be upon His shoulders) while the breastplate 12 gemstones represented judgment, (type of the Lord Jesus Christ in His Deity, Divinity, Humanity, Mediatorialship and Righteousness.) Marilyn.  
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